bad spot out of position

bad spot out of position

CO seems tight aggro, in retrospect I'm a bit surprised with the CO cold call. SB is tight passive, I imagine he's never squeezing the suited broadways and has both pocket pairs and broadways in their range.

On the flop I am checking range and I was planning to check/raise in the frequent case where the sequence of action went CO bets / SB folds. But then CO went for a 75% pot bet, quite big in a 3-way pot so I decided to call instead. Which might be bad (?)

€0.10 NL FAST (6 max)

BTN: 47 BB
SB: 127.5 BB
BB: 108.4 BB
UTG: 108 BB
Hero (MP): 136.2 BB
CO: 118.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T A

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, CO calls 2.5 BB, fold, SB calls 2 BB, fold

Flop: (8.5 BB, 3 players) 2 T 2
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets 6.1 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.1 BB

Turn: (20.7 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, CO bets 14.8 BB, Hero calls 14.8 BB

River: (50.3 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, CO bets 95.1 BB and is all-in, Hero ?

21 April 2025 at 12:36 AM
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Either cbet or riase flop. Your hand is pretty much the nutts unless CO flats JJ.
River is a call. You lose to 2 combos that shouldn't even call pre


by Haizemberg93

Either cbet or riase flop. Your hand is pretty much the nutts unless CO flats JJ.
River is a call. You lose to 2 combos that shouldn't even call pre

Thanks. In this pool they flat *a lot* on BTN, they are fairly wide. I know it's even more a reason to x/r flop, their size made me reconsider though, in retrospect I agree it was a mediocre decision. Playing without position is hard, I'm bleeding money in those spots.


I would want a stronger read to call this down. badreg aggro V can still have TT, 22, 2x, 33, AA, A2s... all in a funner players range.

Question is, does he turn OPs and all air into a bluff otr? Some aggros will, but your description also suggests 'tight'.

(as an aside, i've never really liked the TAG tag. It's a contradiction, isn't it? If you're 'tight' you don't spew has always been my assumption)

Anyway, in summary: **** knows, lean fold


Oh wait, it’s like tight as in preflop isn’t it? Alright. Still, a tight, low VPIP player is going to have the TT here at a reasonable concentration ime. It is also doubtful they would spaff off their OPs like this after playing passively pre.

I hope you called so we find out. that's the important part


by Ceres

Oh wait, it’s like tight as in preflop isn’t it? Alright. Still, a tight, low VPIP player is going to have the TT here at a reasonable concentration ime. It is also doubtful they would spaff off their OPs like this after playing passively pre.

I hope you called so we find out. that's the important part

Yes, I thought "maybe I should call, maybe I should fold, let's call such that Ceres will have the result when I'll post this on 2+2"

€0.10 NL FAST (6 max)

BTN: 47 BB
SB: 127.5 BB
BB: 108.4 BB
UTG: 108 BB
Hero (MP): 136.2 BB
CO: 118.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T A

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, CO calls 2.5 BB, fold, SB calls 2 BB, fold

Flop: (8.5 BB, 3 players) 2 T 2
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets 6.1 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.1 BB

Turn: (20.7 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, CO bets 14.8 BB, Hero calls 14.8 BB

River: (50.3 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, CO bets 95.1 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 95.1 BB

CO shows 3 3 (Full House, Threes full of Twos)
Hero shows T A (Two Pair, Aces and Tens)
CO wins 228.5 BB


Aha!

The ol' backdoor bluff fish value move. Passive pre, aggro flop, value town turn and river. Reg pwned

More range morph than a Power Ranger etc

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