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President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by natediggity

Dude has gotta go........Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth shared detailed information about forthcoming strikes in Yemen on March 15 in a private Signal group chat that included his wife, brother and personal lawyer, according to four people with knowledge of the chat.Some of those people said that the information Mr. Hegseth shared on the Signal chat included the flight schedule

Gotta go where ?
In prison ?

Trump about Clinton email -> lock her up !

WASHINGTON — The attempts by President Donald Trump and top leaders of his Administration to downplay a security breach that revealed military strike plans in a Signal group chat including a journalist stand in stark contrast to their reaction to Hillary Clinton’s use of a home server as secretary of state.

Trump in 2016

Then: “Hillary is the one who sent and received classified information on an insecure server, putting the safety of the American people under threat,” Trump said in an October 2016 speech in Warren, Michigan.

“The rigged system refused to prosecute her for conduct that put all of us, everybody in this room, everybody in this country at risk. Hillary Clinton went to great lengths to create a private email server and to bypass government security in order to keep her emails from being read by the public and by federal officials,” he said in a November 2016 speech in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

As always , laws only applies to others and freedom only allowed to us maga !


by Bored5000

I don't get the argument at all that somebody is a leftist or a progressive but not a Democrat. That is just a wing of the Democratic party. The power in the Democratic party knows the leftist wing can be squashed down because they have nowhere else to go. The leftist wing either accepts whatever moderate the party gives them and likes it or sits out the election and helps ele

There isn't a single Leftist or progressive in the entire Democratic party in congress. Bernie and AOC and the like are not Leftists so don't feed me them. No one who votes to give weapons to Israel is a Leftist or anywhere close to Left on the political spectrum. On the material issues of war, healthcare, and the levers and gears you need to keep our government accountable to the majority, there is no real difference between AOC, Pelosi, and Lindsey Graham.

Many people are trying to erect a third party. The Democrats, who just let Trump do whatever he wants like they are a Down Syndrome summer camp, have no lack of imagination or agency when it comes to destroying 3rd parties. It's nasty.


...like i said


by Bored5000

I don't get the argument at all that somebody is a leftist or a progressive but not a Democrat. That is just a wing of the Democratic party. The power in the Democratic party knows the leftist wing can be squashed down because they have nowhere else to go. The leftist wing either accepts whatever moderate the party gives them and likes it or sits out the election and helps ele

There are actually plenty of leftists in the US that don’t support the Democratic party and actively operate to try to undermine support of the party.

It’s actually a very contentious issue between more pragmatic people and more idealistic people.


by ecriture d'adulte

Lol Hegseth. Getting so uppity about the first leaked chat when he knew he was also sharing info with other people outside the government in another thread on the same app. Dude is living purely off the soft bigotry of low expectations.

At least he wasn't a woke hire though! That's the important thing to take away.

He was brought in solely based on his outstanding reputation and years of experience 🙄


by checkraisdraw

There are actually plenty of leftists in the US that don’t support the Democratic party and actively operate to try to undermine support of the party.

It’s actually a very contentious issue between more pragmatic people and more idealistic people.

It's not necessarily a lack of pragmatism that motivates people on the left to undermine democrats.

It can be a long term attempt to change things , pragmatically. In the short term they have no chance obviously, given the 2 party system.


Go trump go !
Talking about firing Powell …

In one day , US dollar down 1% , 30 years bonds surge again near 5%, market down 1% .
That idiot will bankrupt generations of American soon enough …


by Montrealcorp

Interesting you cite Wallace, who you probably don’t realise was a fascist leader who beheaded thousands of his own people for refusing to join his army (the madman had visions of ruling England but his attempt at invasion only got as far as Northumberland).

Try to look at actual history instead of Hollywood versions of it that only lead to being brainwashed.


by jalfrezi

Interesting you cite Wallace, who you probably don’t realise was a fascist leader who beheaded thousands of his own people for refusing to join his army (the madman had visions of ruling England but his attempt at invasion only got as far as Northumberland).

Try to look at actual history instead of Hollywood versions of it that only lead to being brainwashed.

And you believe maga isn’t fascist while claiming they are for freedom too ?

But anyway my clip wasn’t referring about Wallace but more about the words that was spoken ….
Take it easy buddy .


by jalfrezi

Interesting you cite Wallace, who you probably don’t realise was a fascist leader who beheaded thousands of his own people for refusing to join his army (the madman had visions of ruling England but his attempt at invasion only got as far as Northumberland).

Try to look at actual history instead of Hollywood versions of it that only lead to being brainwashed.

You can criticise authoritarianism without being so lazy as to use "fascist" to describe people who lived centuries before fascism was invented.


Proto-fascist then, you pedant.

I'm sure you'd have approved of him slaughtering his own citizens if they disobeyed him.


It is so lazy to use originalist interpretations of a document to determine current laws about automatic guns, abortion and political pacs when those things didn’t exist 200 years ago. Oh wait, hypocrisy alert.


by jalfrezi

Proto-fascist then, you pedant.

I'm sure you'd have approved of him slaughtering his own citizens if they disobeyed him.

what proto, fascism is something that requires modern state capacity, it is not synonymous nor analogous to just authoritarianism. All stripes of ideology slaughtered people.

No i am not in favour of a leader slaughtering his own citizens, i am not a collectivist, there is no "us" to lead to glory no matter how you want to define glory.

You need collectivism even to have the basis to start thinking of the people of a cohesive unit to be led to goals or outcomes. Ie you need your own ideology, which inevitably ends in large lakes of blood every time.

Only by putting the individual above the collective as the only source of inherent value, disregarding the notion and "us" can exist , be defined, and its welfare used as the outcome for policy, you can try to avoid massive bloodshed.

As long as you defend any form of collectivism the slaughtering of masses of innocent is the inevitable outcome, you just have to hope is other innocents and not your own specific group.

And fascism is just one of many thousands of variants of the same theme, while individualism and a denial of collectivism is a rare thing that happened very sparingly because only special, superior individuals can reject collectivism and trascend that specific natural pulsion which is the main source of moral horrors throughout history


granpa rambling again.


Vance visiting being so bad you chose to just die after it is a choice


by thethethe

At least he wasn't a woke hire though! That's the important thing to take away.

He was brought in solely based on his outstanding reputation and years of experience 🙄

Yeah the whole moral panic over DEI is heavily muted by how unqualified and just plain bad so many of these conservatives are for and at their jobs. There was some National Review editor I heard on NPR who practically in the same sentence went from bashing Harvard for DEI hiring then switching over to complaining about how Harvard is not doing enough to seek out and promote culturally conservative faculty members. That the only qualified particle physicists based on merit are anti right wing is suddenly not acceptable. Clearly there is some implicit bias either at Harvard or in the particle physics community working against conservatives that we must actively work to correct!!


Look it just turns out that white guys are better at everything than everyone else. Those are just facts.

Just like how SpaceX/Palantir are just the best choice to win all these billion dollar contracts. They just are.


Unless it’s a bunch of white guys who think Trump is bad at his job. In that case obviously the system is broken.


by GTO2.0

Just like how SpaceX/Palantir are just the best choice to win all these billion dollar contracts. They just are.

Having worked for with legacy contractors, they kind of are to be fair. Lockheed, Boeing, Northrop Grumman etc have owned many senators for decades.


by ecriture d'adulte

Lol Hegseth. Getting so uppity about the first leaked chat when he knew he was also sharing info with other people outside the government in another thread on the same app. Dude is living purely off the soft bigotry of low expectations.

This second incident and with family and friends if true means he has to go .


by lozen

This second incident and with family and friends if true means he has to go .

Just like all the others, he never even should have been nominated. That he was approved is an embarrassment and none of the resulting clown-show is even slightly surprising to anyone. Let's not act like this is a straw/camel situation here.


as bad as he is, hegseth STILL isn't close to being as bad as trump


NPR reporting WH looking for hegseth’s replacement

On one hand, GJGE Whiskey Pete, on the other you just ****ing know they’re going to land on someone worse


by campfirewest

Having worked for with legacy contractors, they kind of are to be fair. Lockheed, Boeing, Northrop Grumman etc have owned many senators for decades.

Defense contracting is dirty AF, the companies suck, the industry sucks, and people probably die all the time because of how much it sucks. No argument there.

Doesn’t make it ok to give Elon billions to make a vapor ware “Golden Dome” that he will then RENT to American gov or Thiel access to literally ever tax payers personal info for god knows what reason.


by StoppedRainingMen

NPR reporting WH looking for hegseth’s replacement

On one hand, GJGE Whiskey Pete, on the other you just ****ing know they’re going to land on someone worse

My moneys on that guy who cashed in on killing Osama. Either that or Jocko Willink.

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