We have like the 3rd nut facing 20x overbet jam?
Coinpoker - $0.05 NL (7 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BB): 191.4 BB
UTG: 97.4 BB (VPIP: 20.80, PFR: 13.47, 3Bet Preflop: 0.35, Hands: 737)
UTG+1: 98.6 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP: 255.4 BB (VPIP: 43.75, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 32)
CO: 230.4 BB (VPIP: 61.29, PFR: 25.81, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 32)
BTN: 99.6 BB (VPIP: 20.73, PFR: 16.46, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 168)
SB: 99 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 26.67, Hands: 32)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♦ 3♦
fold, fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero checks
Flop: (2.4 BB, 2 players) 8♥ 6♦ 5♦
Hero bets 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB
Turn: (4.4 BB, 2 players) Q♦
Hero bets 4.8 BB, CO raises to 228.4 BB and is all-in
????
Makes no sense. Do they really do this with K/A flushes?
Pot is super small, V range is all flushes some Ax with 1 diamond? If he's super bad, maybe some 2 pairs? some straights? some sets? I have no clue, I wasn't paying attention, was 8 tabling.
We never have the odds to call? If he only had like 50bb or less, I think it's snap call.
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That's why so important to pay attention because could make this an easy call if they are spewing off in previous hands. Without reads I would probably fold just to save on variance but I think it's close because V already made 2 bad mistakes.
The biggest fish do this with all kinds of hands you beat. Other fish will do it for protection, so you're probably looking at a smaller flush a lot with occasional K high flushes too. I'm pretty much always calling this, TBH.
It sucks (mentally) this deep, but I think it is a call, and not a difficult one to find. Fish doesn't have only K or A high flushes here, any flush can and do take this overplay line. I bet he will show up with straights at some frequency. And even if this is underbluffed, it doesn't mean no bluffs, or no semi bluffs, he can have Adx for example. Plus fish nonsense. I think that you definitely have > 50% equity by a decent margin here, and folding is a big mistake.
Wow so many ppl find a call here. I folded in game.
I don't play online now or those micros, but I would fold. You potted when the flush hit. It seems like he is trying to get maximum value.
His PFR is 25. That suggests to me that he is raising quite a few Ax and Kx hands. Especially of the suited variety.
Plenty of times he has a smaller flush, straight or some ratty two pair he picked up on the turn.
Huge punt to call
His PFR is 25. That suggests to me that he is raising quite a few Ax and Kx hands. Especially of the suited variety.
Plenty of times he has a smaller flush, straight or some ratty two pair he picked up on the turn.
Is he overbet jamming for 20x pot with a smaller flush when you pot it? It looks like a nut flush trying to get maximum value, figuring you usually have a flush and can't fold it.
It's a fold my man.
Pretty straight forward that you're going to see a fish going for max value here because *wowz, I have the nuts*, and they get overly excited, more often than a fish is trying to move you off a hand, semibluffing, or has a worse flush. Even fish understand if they have a lower flush this deep, raising a reasonable amount is more reasonable.
There will be some fish that shove with only the nuts and some that shove with draws and the nuts, I have encountered both frequently which makes me think this is close based on the odds.. there isn't a need to be so certain on one side or the other.
