If you had to audition 450 dealers, what would be the best way to do it?
Would you have multiple auditions, a simple and quick one to weed out most of the group followed by a longer and more thorough audition? Or would you just give a standard audition to every single applicant
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I've done several auditions, including at the Wynn when they were doing mass auditions 2 years ago, and none were thorough. They fill a table with applicants and each deals 2-4 hands of different types. They'll usually direct the action somewhat to set up certain situations, or even change out board cards to make sure there's a low. Supervisor takes notes, maybe asks a couple of quick questions, then they get shuffled off and the next applicant is sent to the table.
The room manager sees the notes and after a question or two will extend an offer on the spot or tell you to try again later.
Never worked in a casino before so maybe the culture is different.
The question is how many open positions there are? Unless you've got 100 or more spots, I would weed them down based their background before even talking to them. Of the remaining, you want to see how they work like reducto suggests. Finally, I'd ask a question to figure out how they handle objections from players. I'd want a dealer that could defuse a situation before it gets to the "floor!" situation.
Let's say I can use 10 tables.
I start 10 dealers with a deck 1 at each table. and tell them to shuffle and deal 8 hands of 7 stud. and put both hands up (touchdown!) when done.
Not sure how many you are hiring, but let's say half.
anyone dealing incorrectly in put in pool C.
Slowest three plus are put in pool B
Others are Pool A.
Repeat 45 times (change up the game...PLO, 2-7, etc)
See how many Pool As you have. Adjust Pool Bs if needed.
Let's say I can use 10 tables. I start 10 dealers with a deck 1 at each table. and tell them to shuffle and deal 8 hands of 7 stud. and put both hands up (touchdown!) when done.Not sure how many you are hiring, but let's say half. anyone dealing incorrectly in put in pool C. Slowest three plus are put in pool BOthers are Pool A.Repeat 45 times (change up the game...PLO, 2-7,
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I think the casino industry has embraced reality better than most. There's this idea that the more time you spend vetting and interviewing people, the higher your chances of finding that one perfect candidate who is already an expert and will pop right in with no issues.
Really, there's only so much you can tell before someone is actually on the job. People who ace auditions might be looking for a new job because they have a bad attitude and burned bridges in a dozen rooms already. Someone else might be mediocre because they get really nervous when being tested, but are great once they settle in. I think that's why dealer auditions are so quick. You just want to see if they know the basics and get a quick read on their attitude. Let gaming do the background check stuff, then put them in the box and see what happens.
Let's say I can use 10 tables. I start 10 dealers with a deck 1 at each table. and tell them to shuffle and deal 8 hands of 7 stud. and put both hands up (touchdown!) when done.Not sure how many you are hiring, but let's say half. anyone dealing incorrectly in put in pool C. Slowest three plus are put in pool BOthers are Pool A.Repeat 45 times (change up the game...PLO, 2-7,
Sounds horrid in so many ways.
Let's say I can use 10 tables. I start 10 dealers with a deck 1 at each table. and tell them to shuffle and deal 8 hands of 7 stud. and put both hands up (touchdown!) when done.Not sure how many you are hiring, but let's say half. anyone dealing incorrectly in put in pool C. Slowest three plus are put in pool BOthers are Pool A.Repeat 45 times (change up the game...PLO, 2-7,
Some of the worst dealers I ever met were super fast. You don’t even need good pitch mechanics to be fast.
Can you be more specific?
This is just the FIRST aspect to eliminate dealers who don't even know how to deal the game requested, and the people who deal slowly or can't deliver cards accurately.
As a player, I couldn't give a f*** about 'pitch mechanics.' I don't care if they throw them behind their back as long as they are not exposing them.
The FIRST thing i want AS A PLAYER is a dealer who can deliver 2 (or 3 or 4 or 5) cards accurately and in a reasonably fast fashion.
Then I want someone who WILL ENFORCE THE RULES and pay attention to the game. But if they can't deliver the cards first, they need to go back to practicing.
Oh, and by the way, so far only Reducto and I have even made a attempt to provide an answer, so if you and Quadstriker have such genius methods, lay them out.
As a famous philosopher once said," If you are going to be vague, say nothing."
Can you be more specific? This is just the FIRST aspect to eliminate dealers who don't even know how to deal the game requested, and the people who deal slowly or can't deliver cards accurately. As a player, I couldn't give a f*** about 'pitch mechanics.' I don't care if they throw them behind their back as long as they are not exposing them.The FIRST thing i want AS A PLA
Your suggestion would test speed and nothing else. It won’t even tell if the deal was correct. How are you going to watch 10 tables at once? What if one round happens to have the 10 fastest dealers? You are going to put them in the B group. Or you get a round with 10 slow dealers. Half wind up in the fast group. So you are not getting any real info.
I agree that getting cards out is the first task of a dealer but it is also one of the easiest to spot. You just need to watch. But being the fastest doesn’t make them the best. It is one of those things where clearing the bar is all that is needed.
As to techniques, it isn’t for technique’s sake. The correct way is correct for a reason. If it is done that way, dealer won’t be exposing cards or other issues. Or at least it will be less frequ3nt.
But getting cards out is something all the acceptable candidates can do. Finding people to toss cards is easy but that doesn’t make them dealers. Honestly running the table is much more important. Your method doesn’t address this at all.
As already stated there is no certain way to pick the best dealers in an audition. If their basic mechanics are good, speed will come. If they can handle some game issues, if they can keep the count, if mechanics are decent, there is a good chance they can deal well enough. Then you watch in real games to ensure there are no killer issues there.
IMO, unless I misunderstand, it will just waste a lot of time, will directionally select faster card tossers but it won’t those exposing cards, not knowing how to deal, def doesn’t help at all if any pot limit gains spread.
The correct answer is obviously some sort of Squid Games set up, where whoever survives gets a job.