President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
Yeah, its a dumb question because "free trade" likely just means "free'er than universal tariffs" as the average person probably couldn't define more than 1 or 2 characteristics of what "free trade" even means, ie: "Less tariffs"
Also why aren’t we talking more about super cool guy cryptobro El Salvador ‘president’?
This dude is a ****ing abomination
he's worse than Milei, somehow
I don't know what you guys are so puzzled about.
You enter the country illegally. Due process is you get deported. it's quite simple really.
Dear Hillary Clinton superfan:
A number of the people set for deportation either were born here or entered here legally. Next time, try reading the stuff people are telling you before moronically popping off and embarrassing yourself even further than you typically do.
You seem so compassionate and intelligent. I guess those traits became expressed after this incident.
It also helps that i am no longer a dumbass 10-year old. 😄
In the real world, there is a huge middle ground between completely free trade and Trump's moronic blunderbuss tariffs.But when you pose a binary question, what you really are getting is not generalized opinions about trade, but rather opinions about the trade policy that is in place at the specific moment the question is asked. That's the main reason why "liberal" opinions ap
Pretty sure it was the standard question with "strong support, medium support, medium contrariness, strong contrariness" as options.
You primarily identify with female-coded gender traits? That's interesting. The first thing you should do, and this has nothing inherently to do with gender, is that you should stop being less of an extremely low-info, deeply misanthropic being of pure misery who knows nothing about the world yet thinks it should revolve around whatever moronic "first principles" fight their
Which unmeasurable trait do we use which has massive *legal consequences* ?
Imagine not loathing this POS and this entire administration.
Eh, sht happens, huh?
And that's what you get for trying to be the king of gotchas multitabling forums and posting 1k post a day (I imagine).
You are posting a graph and even after questionning you don't even know what was the question parameters.
And that's what you get for trying to be the king of gotchas multitabling forums and posting 1k post a day (I imagine).
You are posting a graph and even after questionning you don't even know what was the question parameters.
Not sure what you think i don't understand, the graph is the share of "strong approve", it wasn't binary because there isn't only "strong disapprove" as the other option.
Why Trump won
(one of the many examples of insane liberal logic, and please remind Harris came exactly from that specific political culture, one of the worst in western history)
I don't get what is that insane liberal logic?
Saying car break-ins are plunging is a staggering sign of progress?
Well, a ton, for instance, the question of the mental soundness of somebody who is on trial for a violent crime. We can't accurately measure just how sane/insane somebody is by any currently accepted method. A lot of it relies upon the educated OPINION of a psychologist.
And if you're looking for society-wide stuff; well, it's illegal throughout the US for businesses to refuse to serve gay people, and there's no quantifiable measure of how gay somebody is or isn't, certainly one available to a random business owner...
another lucy brain buster
Definitely why the trailer parks of America are the technological. scientific and cultural capitals of the world and not places like San Fransisco.
Well, a ton, for instance, the question of the mental soundness of somebody who is on trial for a violent crime. We can't accurately measure just how sane/insane somebody is by any currently accepted method. A lot of it relies upon the educated OPINION of a psychologist.And if you're looking for society-wide stuff; well, it's illegal throughout the US for businesses to refuse
So you are comparing a status that has to be defined (and that can get to trial even, to be defined) by experts before it has legal consequences, with a status that is purely and entirely defined by the individual.
An expert judgement is a measurement. Measurement doesn't imply a perfect quantitative process. Your status as an expert in a field itself can be measured with credentials.
It is illegal to discriminate someone because he is gay (it is not illegal not to serve gay people if the reason is a different one not under a protected class, say they are drunk), and the discrimination has to be proven to have legal consequences. With objective third party evaluations that it happened.
That measurements can be imperfect is absolutely obvious and normal. That NO objective, third party measurement exists for a status with legal consequences as absolutely no precedent and it is something that shouldn't exist.
You know this is banally true, you know it's completly ****ed up to give legal status to something a person just decides about himself (or even, just claims, you have no way to know if he is lying or not), yet you argue in disgusting bad faith claiming it's normal to do so while your examples are all examples of something that has legal consequences only after a process of validation of the status by the system.
Say, you need to pass a commission of experts judgement about being trans would be your example. That wouldn't be my preferences (because experts are currently captured by horrendous ideology) but at least it would be consistent with other things we do in society.
I don't get what is that insane liberal logic
Saying car break-ins are plunging is a staggering sign of progress
That the headline is the minuscule negatives of the massive success and not the opposite is the insane liberal logic.
Headline should just be "by moving right on crime we fixed it", that's the objective truth. down under "lololol some glass repairers are now struggling"
The insane liberal logic is that even when faced with the clearest proof that radical leftists were objectively wrong and doing differently from them objectively improves society, you look at the 1/1000 pareto inefficience in order to avoid the claim of "radical leftists were objectively wrong"
Great, ecriture is here to argue with lucy about the superiority of one culture over another. I wonder if I'll ever see the words "poverty" or "class" in their discussion. Won't hold my breath; there's just no way a lack of wealth could be the primary motivator for these things! Nobody cares about MONEY, it's all about how good various people are on math tests.
two regressive reactionaries of different persuasions
Pretty sure it was the standard question with "strong support, medium support, medium contrariness, strong contrariness" as options.
Actually, now that I think a bit more, my point doesn't even require that the question have been framed as a binary. The root problem is that the question effectively is changing over time because people interpret the question in the context of the actual trade policy that is in place when the question is posed to them.
I see.
I'm sure I would never find equivalents elsewhere on the politic spectrum if I had to.
These libs are really ruining your life poor lucy.
That the headline is the minuscule negatives of the massive success and not the opposite is the insane liberal logic.Headline should just be "by moving right on crime we fixed it", that's the objective truth. down under "lololol some glass repairers are now struggling"The insane liberal logic is that even when faced with the clearest proof that radical leftists were objectively
Get a grip dude. Quit gobbling up stuff that the outrage algorithm is pumping through your socials. It's just a slice of life story. I'm sure the article wasn't advocating for car break-ins. And no reader would have interpreted the headline that way. You see articles like this all the time that have nothing to do with the paper's political perspective. Here is an article from the NYT discussing the effect of Biden's energy plan on coal miners. I could find a million articles like this.
An expert judgement is a measurement. Measurement doesn't imply a perfect quantitative process. Your status as an expert in a field itself can be measured with credentials.
Oh, well, then it's a good thing that trans kids are routinely examined by mental health EXPERTS (with credentials!) before, during, and after transition!
You may labor under the moronic delusion that a kid will sneak into a clinic and walk out two hours later with their dick chopped off. A lot of conservatives seem to genuinely believe that's how it works. But no, any kid wanting to engage in physical transition (puberty blockers, etc. -- as opposed to social transition) is subject to a quite thorough battery of examinations, both mental and physical, for a process which lasts YEARS.
All of the above is directly relevant to the ways in which the law treats trans citizens.
I'm not too interested in examining your quarter-way relevant tangents elsewhere, but I hope you had fun typing all that dumb **** out.
For someone who claims to be a liberal, you sure manage to hit just about every conservative note going. Are you a liberal like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?
my apologies, i must have missed the memo that the very backbone of liberal ideas are staunched in free cosmetic surgery for convicted felons
Anyone on the right, can you let me know if I'm capturing your argument for pro Trump/MAGA accurately?
MAGA supporters believe that America has drifted away from its traditional roots, economically, culturally, and geopolitically, and that a forceful correction is needed to restore its former strength and sovereignty. You see globalization, political correctness, immigration policy failures, and a perceived erosion of national pride as central threats to the country's well-being. MAGA represents a defense of American manufacturing, strong borders, traditional social values, individual freedoms (particularly around guns and speech), and a deep skepticism of federal government overreach, international entanglements, and elite institutions.
More philosophically, MAGA supporters view themselves as part of a populist uprising against what they see as a detached, corrupt ruling class, media, universities, multinational corporations, and entrenched political dynasties, that no longer represents the "real America." MAGA embraces a style of leadership that is direct, combative, and unapologetic, valuing action over diplomacy, loyalty over compromise, and national interest over global consensus.
Is there anything else specific to add?
And assuming most of the above is accurate... the reasoning goes that this is such a desperate situation for America, that the "ends justify the means" mentality is acceptable, and undermining rule of law to accomplish MAGA's goals is acceptable. Even if that entails completely eroding the rule of law, undermining democratic norms, and dismantling institutions to do so.
Is this all on point essentially?
Its so embarrassing being an American right now
(This embarrassment is a direct result of my general pride in what being an American actually meant ~6 months ago)
