President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
I'm just going to say this one more time, and then move on.Neither you nor I, know everything. Hence, if an issue doesn't directly impact you in any meaningful way, the best... the smartest, the most enlightened thing to do, is just allow people to live their lives, assuming they are not causing harm. You're just wasting your time, energy, and efforts, trying to control others,
We both agree YOU don’t know enough, so why don’t YOU stay out it?
Who’s next?
coordi, you want to respond to my post about how detransitioners invalidate your genetic theory of gender, or no?
I don't know what you guys are so puzzled about.
You enter the country illegally. Due process is you get deported. it's quite simple really.
1. It was an administrative error
2. It was an oversight
3. No legal basis he was removed
4. The supreme court cant tell us what to do
5. Hes actually a terrorist
6. There was no error
7. Hes a dangerous MS-13 gang member
8. MS-13 is a terrorist organization so hes a terrorist
9. Supporting the due process of Kilmar Garcia is aiding and abetting terrorism
Which one of these official statements about Kilmar Garcia do you believe?
Who’s next?
coordi, you want to respond to my post about how detransitioners invalidate your genetic theory of gender, or no?
You have horrible uninformed anti science views on this that don't generally warrant any sort of response
Top reasons for detransitioning:
1. Parental pressure
2. Its incredibly hard mentally and physically (this is the most important part of the whole trans issue that all of you simply ignore)
3. Harassment and Discrimination
3a. Discrimination while trying to get a job
Regret is <1% in both male and female transitions
And regret doesn't really mean anything. It could be regret that their family disowned them for being trans
I find it a bit interesting, that there's a community of people, just asking to exist... and you spend your time trying to justify your hate by pretending you know something magically esoteric about the self.
You have horrible uninformed anti science views on this that don't generally warrant any sort of responseTop reasons for detransitioning:1. Parental pressure2. Its incredibly hard mentally and physically (this is the most important part of the whole trans issue that all of you simply ignore)3. Harassment and Discrimination3a. Discrimination while trying to get a jobRegret is <1
So in your mind, the detransitioners are lying to themselves deep down?
In your mind, they are actually genetically trans but society was too discriminatory so they switched back to live a lie. That’s your view?
If that’s the case, we should expect at least some of the detransitioners to say, “**** it. I’m going to live as my authentic self,” right?
There must be at least some de-detransitioners if your model is correct.
Here's a mother (Sebastiana Gomez-Perez) crying because ICE detained her son, who is a US citizen, even after his birth certificate was shown. https://floridaphoenix.com/2025/04/17/u-...This is literally just kidnapping.
Good news update: he was released and is back with his family now.
I find it a bit interesting, that there's a community of people, just asking to exist... and you spend your time trying to justify your hate by pretending you know something magically esoteric about the self.
You are a hater of the self and of the truth.
I’m on the side of the good.
Your accusation that I’m erasing the existence of anybody by defending the self is disconnected from reality.
So in your mind, the detransitioners are lying to themselves deep down?In your mind, they are actually genetically trans but society was too discriminatory so they switched back to live a lie. That’s your view?If that’s the case, we should expect at least some of the detransitioners to say, “**** it. I’m going to live as my authentic self,” right? There must be at least some de
Yes, this happens in a majority of detransitions
I find it a bit interesting, that there's a community of people, just asking to exist... and you spend your time trying to justify your hate by pretending you know something magically esoteric about the self.
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Why don’t you two step forward and say what it is I’m pretending to know about the self in order to “justify hate”?
That the self exists? I’m making the self up?
The detransitioners de-detransition to live as their authentic self?
I would love to read their stories..
I’ll wait.
https://repository.gheli.harvard.edu/rep...
300 pages of the summary and culmination of their stories is probably as close as you will ever get
https://repository.gheli.harvard.edu/rep...
300 pages of the summary and culmination of their stories is probably as close as you will ever get
Find me one story of someone who transitioned for at least a year, detransitioned for at least a year, and decided to retransition as their true self.
There are thousands of documented cases of detransitioners. There should be some if your model is correct.
do it yourself
I’m looking for adults only since of course minors are bouncing back and forth.
The data I’m finding is messy and unorganized. It’s not separated minors from adults.
I’m seeing data saying over two million identify as trans in the U.S.
The stuff I’m talking about with the self is going to take a long time to be widely accepted.
None of the options seem good in the short term..
I’ll calm down about this.
I find it a bit interesting, that there's a community of people, just asking to exist... and you spend your time trying to justify your hate by pretending you know something magically esoteric about the self.
beautifully succinct, poetic, and perfectly captures the exact same sentiment i have as well.
i dont know the root cause but the proximity to what we'd identify as a toddler having a temper tantrum really comes off as a excessive sense of self importance. that the opinions or beliefs one holds must be forced onto those in proximity or within national boundary or some ****.
i dont think i've ever heard one of these loud mf'ers railin on about gender or transgender ever provide even an anecdote of personal harm.
i hope some of ya'll full of this kinda vitriol find out one day that joy is not zero sum. for you to be happy, it doesnt require the removal of happiness from someone else. its ****in simple.
beautifully succinct, poetic, and perfectly captures the exact same sentiment i have as well. i dont know the root cause but the proximity to what we'd identify as a toddler having a temper tantrum really comes off as a excessive sense of self importance. that the opinions or beliefs one holds must be forced onto those in proximity or within national boundary or some ****. i do
The idea that everything is a zero-sum game with winners and losers is a consistent motif across Trumpism. You see it in trade theory, foreign policy, domestic, fiscal, etc. There are no rising ships....
oh lemme address one quick point about this panic regarding the children:
kids are ****ing stupid. most of their choices are derived from how they think others will perceive them and if that perception will gain social points.
eventually, they'll figure **** out for themselves. if its your child's well being that has you so damn scared, always remember: you cannot fail in place of your child, like a jesus on the cross sorta thing. it doesnt work like that. thats my best guess at origin of argument on that part.
i dont have kids so what the **** do i know though right? but, and this is a hard pill to swallow, i WAS a kid once. a stupid mf'er for sure. i certainly dont think i couldve managed todays world with grace, absolutely far less than i handled the world i occupied as a kid.
but the thing is: your child aint a xerox copy of you. if having kids was part of some "i wanna live forever" type fantasy, bad news -it aint happenin so let it go. you're an adult, should be ****ing easy by now. so let your kid become the person they want to be. help them, as a guide not as a dictator. they'll appreciate it.
