President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by jchristo

I agree that it was also the right that politicized same-sex issues and moved on once it became untenable. The right will always cater to people's worst base instincts and pick the next low hanging fruit. It's the essence of their reactionary DNA.

both parties were against same sex issues when it was convenient to be against, then the left was smarter to pick up a growing trend, at the beginning it cost the left a bit then it was politically advantageous, then the right dropped the topic.

the worst basic instinct is envy, and that's the basis of all leftism: take from the have to give to the have not, there is no worse basic instinct that violent redistribution.


Mongoloid is just an abomination of a human being


by jchristo

Saying trans people under state care can get medically recommended treatment is not particularly political. The right made this specific issue one of their primary political campaigns.

how to spend taxpayers money is ALWAYS POLITICAL TO THE CORE, it's the main issue in politics coupled with "what to make illegal".


by Luciom

a lot more people believed the moon landing was fake than they cared about trans issues in 1998.

it's a large country, 1-2-3 m people caring is "nobody gives a flying ****"

Thats not what you said though. You said nobody was giving them second though when the community was up in arms about increased targeted violence.

You said the left alone decided to push the issue when the first bit of legislation passed was HB 2. Obama made a show of extending Title IX to trans individuals as a direct response to HB 2

Like, its incredibly clear that you are very well versed on this history but specifically choose to speak on the topic in bad faith


by jchristo

Saying trans people under state care can get medically recommended treatment is not particularly political. The right made this specific issue one of their primary political campaigns.

I like the idea that answering a question on a questionnaire = campaigning on, though.


by coordi

specifically choose to speak on the topic in bad faith

I swear I've seen this movie before.


by coordi

Thats not what you said though. You said nobody was giving them second though when the community was up in arms about increased targeted violence.You said the left alone decided to push the issue when the first bit of legislation passed was HB 2. Obama made a show of extending Title IX to trans individuals as a direct response to HB 2Like, its incredibly clear that you are ve

You speak on Obergefell as the flood gates when HB 2 was specifically a response to Obergefell

Its just comical how bad faith it all is


by Gorgonian

I swear I've seen this movie before.

I'm generally of the camp that Lucio vastly posts in good faith. He just has many repugnant views but hes generally consistent with those views

This is one topic that he can't help but make a bunch of **** up to frame the issue as leftist identity delirium


by coordi

Thats not what you said though. You said nobody was giving them second though when the community was up in arms about increased targeted violence.You said the left alone decided to push the issue when the first bit of legislation passed was HB 2. Obama made a show of extending Title IX to trans individuals as a direct response to HB 2Like, its incredibly clear that you are ve

yes I am trying to convey the idea that a "community" of a few thousands people is equivalent to "nobody gives a ****".

It Is like I claimed nobody gave a **** about Bitcoin in 2012 ok? not on mainstream radar at all, not a political issue.

why do lie about the timing in the bold? Obama "interpreted" title ix to include trans people end of 2014


he talked about transgender in the state of the union (!!!?? FFS)

HB 2 was passed early 2016



by coordi

I'm generally of the camp that Lucio vastly posts in good faith. He just has many repugnant views but hes generally consistent with those views

This is one topic that he can't help but make a bunch of **** up to frame the issue as leftist identity delirium

man you lie objectively and demonstrably on this topic and you just did again claiming reversed causation between Obama hyper violent trans push out of the blue and hb2 passing.

it is leftist delirium. You made up the whole thing. no law or regulation should be changed because trans people exist. there is no special issue about trans people that justifies ANY political effort anywhere to cater to them in any special way at all.

the whole conversation is political poison and abomination to shove absurdities invented by Marxists down everyone throat.

trans people should just be treated like everyone else by the law and when there is a legal or regulatory subdivision linked to sex, what they think or feel about themselves should never matter in the slightest as it doesn't for anyone when other rules are applied in society.


by coordi

You speak on Obergefell as the flood gates when HB 2 was specifically a response to Obergefell

Its just comical how bad faith it all is

obergefelles is the flood gate but it started a little earlier.

after obergefelles tens of thousands of gay activists moved to trans activism and they needed to enlarge the issue as much as possible to get donors money.

they started pushing with unprecedented violence in the public sphere about an issue until very recently no one gave a ****


by jchristo

Saying trans people under state care can get medically recommended treatment is not particularly political. The right made this specific issue one of their primary political campaigns.

lol at the notion that creating policy to give free cosmetic surgeries to inmates that costs regular folks hundreds of thousands for citizens not in jail is not politicizing it

your level of confirmation bias is impressive


by Luciom

both parties were against same sex issues when it was convenient to be against, then the left was smarter to pick up a growing trend, at the beginning it cost the left a bit then it was politically advantageous, then the right dropped the topic.the worst basic instinct is envy, and that's the basis of all leftism: take from the have to give to the have not, there is no worse ba

No, the left and the right exploit each other's weaknesses. The topic is irrelevant.

The right exploits the left's tendency to protect marginalized communities.

The left exploits the right's tendency to discriminate and hate.

Elon let the cat out of the bag when he said, "The fundamental problem w/ the west (liberal democracy) is empathy." The right, and people like Elon, know what they are doing. It's 100% intentional.

Reading your comments most of the time, is like reading a high schoolers view of the world. It's almost as if you haven't really ever lived in it. **** like this that you post literally every day -
"the worst basic instinct is envy, and that's the basis of all leftism: take from the have to give to the have not, there is no worse basic instinct that violent redistribution."

It's such sophomoric, and hyperbolic ridiculousness. Nobody on the left thinks this... literally nobody.

What's personally mind-boggling to me is that education has spent so much time getting you guys to understand people like Trump. This specific character in all the books, movies, poems, songs, etc... and we've shown over and over the outcome of what these people produce around them.

Yet... for some inexplicable reason... you guys still don't get it.

I may go to the grave not fully understanding that one. It seems so absurdly obvious. I don't expect most people to understand rocket science, but for fks sake... so much education is spent on just this specific topic.


by coordi

I'm generally of the camp that Lucio vastly posts in good faith. He just has many repugnant views but hes generally consistent with those views

This is one topic that he can't help but make a bunch of **** up to frame the issue as leftist identity delirium

I can name several more (covid lockdowns, vaccine mandates just for starters).


now I learn that nobody on the left is in favour of violent redistribution.

keep in mind that taxes and welfare are villen redistribution, violentsnmeans forces, involuntary, under threat of actual physical violence if you don't comply.

all state actions backed by law enforcement and the judiciary are violent inherently.

sometimes violence is necessary. for the left it is to redistribute. for us it is a moral horror based on the worst basic instinct a to even suggest violent redistribution as an option. which is what the left has been born to do politically centuries ago.


Many on the left have dehumanized the right so they can simplistically label them evil and their side good. It’s obvious once you see it.

The reality is non progressives actually care about cultural norms and values too. Like every adult should.


Title IX implicitly covered transgender pupils since at least 2013 but it was never anything that an average person would have any knowledge of. The first major headline grabbing piece of legislation regarding any trans topic - basically the first time it was much more than a fringe issue - was HB2. The memo making explicit the previously implicit interpretation that Title IX provisions applied to transgender pupils was released as a direct response to HB2.


by craig1120

Many on the left have dehumanized the right so they can simplistically label them evil and their side good. It’s obvious once you see it.

The reality is non progressives actually care about cultural norms and values too. Like every adult should.

So protect them.

All this chaos, and hate, and attacking allies... what's the end goal? Who wants to be at war w/ their neighbor... both on their street, and the country next door? Adults look for compromise and peace... not hate and domination.

All this zero-sum thinking, and attacks on anyone different... it never ends well. Why should anyone support it?

I've asked this question in here before... what was so existential that warranted people turning on each other and burning everything down?


by FreakDaddy

So protect them.All this chaos, and hate, and attacking allies... what's the end goal? Who wants to be at war w/ their neighbor... both on their street, and the country next door? Adults look for compromise and peace... not hate and domination. All this zero-sum thinking, and attacks on anyone different... it never ends well. Why should anyone support it? I've asked this questi

What is the compromise you propose to someone like me?


Do you guys really not understand how much you're being manipulated?

We're all being manipulated by media, whether traditional, social, ads, etc... Companies, think-tanks, teams of psychologist... we have NO chance, unless we learn how to recognize the underlying goal of the manipulation. The attention economy has re-wired a lot of people's brains, and what you consume becomes a new thought pattern w/o you recognizing it. If you consume more hateful content, guess what happens?

But the end goal is all the same. It really IS AS SIMPLE as this is all a dog and pony show to steal more of your money.

What's the actual goal of doing something like this?
Air Force Deletes Pages on First Female Thunderbirds Pilot Amid DEI Purge.

Do we think there are no women capable of being a Thunderbird? No... of course not.


by craig1120

What is the compromise you propose to someone like me?

I don't know you... but how about starting w/ just being a decent person?

Everyone... and I mean everyone, excluding absolute sociopaths, has an innate sense of fairness. Deal w/ people in fairness, and you'll discover immense peace in yourself, which will indirectly transfer to others in your immediate circle.


by craig1120

Many on the left have dehumanized the right so they can simplistically label them evil and their side good. It’s obvious once you see it.

The reality is non progressives actually care about cultural norms and values too. Like every adult should.

Many people on the right are driving around in unmarked cars in plain clothes and kidnapping people with no criminal record and then shipping them to a black hole of a prison in a country they've never been to.


by jjjou812

I pictured playing with Jarts from your post and just how dumb that game was and how the hell didn't parents and the manufacturer realize it before production and use.

My family had a set of Jarts, except my brother and I decided on a variant of the rules when we were quite young. Instead of trying to land the darts in the target area, we tried the hit each other. The idea was that your opponent had to stand still, and if you made your opponent move to get out of the way of the Jart, you got a point. Inevitably, I hit my brother in the toe because the stubborn ****er refused to jump out of the way. A broken toe was the price he paid for having big balls.

Parents took them away after that incident.


by FreakDaddy

I don't know you... but how about starting w/ just being a decent person?

Everyone... and I mean everyone, excluding absolute sociopaths, has an innate sense of fairness. Deal w/ people in fairness, and you'll discover immense peace in yourself, which will indirectly transfer to others in your immediate circle.

What is the right response in this example:

by craig1120

If a child gets kidnapped and is raised by the kidnappers to believe the kidnappers are the child’s parents, is it wrong to return the child to the true parents?The child believes the kidnappers are the true parents. A confused group of “experts” trust the child and believe the kidnappers are the true parents.Should the child not be reconnected with the true p


by microbet

Many people on the right are driving around in unmarked cars in plain clothes and kidnapping people with no criminal record and then shipping them to a black hole of a prison in a country they've never been to.

I’m glad people like you are making noise and holding them accountable to conducting the deportations humanely.

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