President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
Thought experiment: all the solid red states secede and sail off into the sunset with Trump as their leader. How long before the whole thing turns into a shithole broke banana republic with a massive Trump cult of personality and de facto legalised persecution of nonwhites and blaming them for all their problems like the Nazis did to the jews? 2 days?
Thought experiment: all the solid red states secede and sail off into the sunset with Trump as their leader. How long before the whole thing turns into a shithole broke banana republic with a massive Trump cult of personality and de facto legalised persecution of nonwhites and blaming them for all their problems like the Nazis did to the jews? 2 days?
That would be their natural state of rest
Ban from military
Ban from sports
Ban on non M/F gender identifiers on gov docs
Equal protection….
They aren't banned from sports.
There is no constitutional right to get identified for genders that don't exist, the concept itself of gender outside of man/woman and separated from sex is an invention that came after the constitution was written, it isn't a constitutional right.
They are banned from the militaries as they were for most of american history and courts consider that constitutional, so no constitutional right infringement there.
You always make this point as if it is a gotcha. It isn't. Most of us reject the assumption implicit in your argument--namely, that there should be no guardrails on how a government treats residents who are not citizens.I don't agree that Trump has avoided actually infringing on the rights of citizens, but let's put that to the side for the moment. He indisputably has attempt
Tame deuce claimed that trump admin was "hellbent closing the gap" with *CHINA*.
To close that gap you need to massively destroy basic constitutional rights of citizens. Assembly/association (COVID military lockdowns, Falun gong, many others), religion (Falun gong, Islam for uighus), freedom of speech (countless cases), all political freedoms and so on.
If he was "hellbent" to get close to that he would have attempted to infringe those rights already, so I am asking for examples.
Libel laws exist conceptually and asking to change them in a more restricted direction isn't necessarily an infringement of the 1a, it depends on details.
Trump himself lost a huge case for defamation right? Pretty insane to claim that was unconstitutional, and if him denying he raped a person can be defamation well then a lot of what the press said about trump can as well, under the constitution.
Unrestricted Birthright citizenship stands upon the interpretation of a clause, now it's an attempt to infringe on rights to interpret a clause differently?
(note: just speaking for myself here, I imagine many/most of the liberals/leftists may disagree)
Who cares about the Constitution? I'm tired of being inextricably tied to this document written by a bunch of slave owners from like 260 years ago.
The Trump Administration is doing evil **** to people in marginalized groups. It's bad to do evil ****. It's particularly bad to do evil **** to people who don't have the means and opportunity to fix the awful situations they get placed in.
Is that not 1000x more important than quibbling over interpretations of some ancient document? I mean, if the law system had any ability to check Trump for unconstitutional stuff, one could argue, but...
But speaking of trans issues, I had always assumed this transphobic Riley Gaines grifter lady had finished second in a race, only behind a trans woman who won. No, she tied with a trans woman for FIFTH AND SIXTH PLACE. Way to form an entire career around hustling the rubes who are ALSO mad that you're equally as mediocre a swimmer as this trans lady. That's some hustle.
Oh please! They aren't just "running around rounding up people". They aren't the "gestapo".
actually, they are
They are simply getting the illegals out of this country.
Except a whole bunch are not here illegally.
Shame on those trying to stop ice from doing their job.
Their job is running around is rounding up people.
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They aren't banned from sports.There is no constitutional right to get identified for genders that don't exist, the concept itself of gender outside of man/woman and separated from sex is an invention that came after the constitution was written, it isn't a constitutional right.They are banned from the militaries as they were for most of american history and courts consider tha
Great arguments! These are all being litigated right now, and for some reason the government isn’t taking these ironclad positions. You should call em up and let them know!
George and Kellyanne didn't get divorced until 2023! Some 7 years after she accepted a prominent role in the Trump Administration and some 3 years after it ended! So, no, that's clearly NOT why they divorced. I suspect they divorced sometime shortly after the crazy beef between Kellyanne and their daughter Claudia became public.
Eh, it's really difficult to just peace out of a marriage when you want to hold it together for the children. They were married for over 20 years. Certainly the public political differences weighed on them, and the whole Claudia stuff was over the same political stuff.
So while you can say they didn't divorce because she took a job in Trump's administration, I think it's fair to say that their political differences trashed their marriage to the point where it wasn't salvageable even after they both resigned from their posts in 2020 to focus on their family.
Great arguments! These are all being litigated right now, and for some reason the government isn’t taking these ironclad positions. You should call em up and let them know!
Unconstitutionality isn't the only reason a government action can be unlawful.
Afaik litigations on these matters are dealing with purported incorrect uses of power (in the sense that an EO isn't what allows for the sport decision necessarily) and so on.
But anyway, trans people aren't banned from sports.
Biological men are banned from women sports.
Biological men that think they are women can compete in sport against other biological men and viceversa.
Unconstitutionality isn't the only reason a government action can be unlawful.Afaik litigations on these matters are dealing with purported incorrect uses of power (in the sense that an EO isn't what allows for the sport decision necessarily) and so on.But anyway, trans people aren't banned from sports. Biological men are banned from women sports.Biological men that think they
translation for people who don't speak bigot:
"Women who think they are men who are juiced up on all sorts of testosterone and other hormones are free to beat up on other women because we don't actually give a **** about any of this"
Unconstitutionality isn't the only reason a government action can be unlawful.Afaik litigations on these matters are dealing with purported incorrect uses of power (in the sense that an EO isn't what allows for the sport decision necessarily) and so on.But anyway, trans people aren't banned from sports. Biological men are banned from women sports.Biological men that think they
Have you guys watched this episode of Jon Oliver. Think it does a really good job explaining this issue in a nuanced and thoughtful way. I'd highly recommend it if you haven't.
Trump’s D.C. U.S. attorney pick appeared on Russian state media over 150 times
Nominee Ed Martin did not disclose his RT and Sputnik appearances from 2016 to 2024 to the Senate. The State Department has said the networks act like arms of Russian intelligence.
Tame deuce claimed that trump admin was "hellbent closing the gap" with *CHINA*.To close that gap you need to massively destroy basic constitutional rights of citizens. Assembly/association (COVID military lockdowns, Falun gong, many others), religion (Falun gong, Islam for uighus), freedom of speech (countless cases), all political freedoms and so on.If he was "hellbent" to ge
I was responding to your post, not t_d's
Libel laws exist conceptually and asking to change them in a more restricted direction isn't necessarily an infringement of the 1a, it depends on details.
Of course it depends on the details. That isn't an answer. I obviously was suggesting that Trump's conception of libel law would be unconstitutional.
Trump himself lost a huge case for defamation right? Pretty insane to claim that was unconstitutional, and if him denying he raped a person can be defamation well then a lot of what the press said about trump can as well, under the constitution.
Where did I claim that Trump filing a defamation suit in his capacity as a private citizen was unconstitutional?
Unrestricted Birthright citizenship stands upon the interpretation of a clause, now it's an attempt to infringe on rights to interpret a clause differently?
I obviously anticipated this response. I know that you think think that bad faith interpretations of the law by the executive branch are harmless because we have courts. I disagree for the reasons I explained.
You didn't address the election stuff at all, but don't feel obligated. I know what you would say because you have said it before.
translation for people who don't speak bigot:
"Women who think they are men who are juiced up on all sorts of testosterone and other hormones are free to beat up on other women because we don't actually give a **** about any of this"
Uh? If you take testosterone you are banned from sports for that, trans or not, that's a different topic.
I really don't understand what you mean here.
Have you guys watched this episode of Jon Oliver. Think it does a really good job explaining this issue in a nuanced and thoughtful way. I'd highly recommend it if you haven't.
Maybe this is an outlier, but "nuanced and thoughtful" are not things I'd associate with Jon Oliver.
Maybe this is an outlier, but "nuanced and thoughtful" are not things I'd associate with Jon Oliver.
Maybe... but his argument is more nuanced and thoughtful than other arguments out there imho.
While definition of "being at war" is an official one and requires official steps to have happened, which they didn't, point me to where it is written exactly what constitutes an invasion and who decides if one is happening to allow the AEA to be triggered.It isn't a matter of opinion, rather a legal one: who gets the last call to determine if an invasion is indeed happening or
It’s only ambiguous to you because it’s not leaning in the way you want ..
Put a lefty in place of trump with a lefty agenda and you wouldn’t find it ambiguous at all the U.S. is not at war or invaded .
And you would call him every name you could find .
translation for people who don't speak bigot:
"Women who think they are men who are juiced up on all sorts of testosterone and other hormones are free to beat up on other women because we don't actually give a **** about any of this"
The UK Supreme Court has today ruled that, in law, under the Equality Act 2010, 'man', 'woman' and 'sex' are defined by biology. Trans-identified people have separate protection under the Act, but women's spaces, sports, services and rights are now not subject to the incursions that were wrongly permitted in the last decade.
But speaking of trans issues, I had always assumed this transphobic Riley Gaines grifter lady had finished second in a race, only behind a trans woman who won. No, she tied with a trans woman for FIFTH AND SIXTH PLACE. Way to form an entire career around hustling the rubes who are ALSO mad that you're equally as mediocre a swimmer as this trans lady. That's some hustle.
I assume you watched the Jon Oliver clip.
Ya... this is pretty much never talked about. It's a total hate grift.
The UK Supreme Court has today ruled that, in law, under the Equality Act 2010, 'man', 'woman' and 'sex' are defined by biology. Trans-identified people have separate protection under the Act, but women's spaces, sports, services and rights are now not subject to the incursions that were wrongly permitted in the last decade.
I think Jon Oliver did say it well... focusing on trans athletes in sports, it just a vaguely cloaked way to be bigoted against the trans community. It's ok to say, "I don't think trans people should exist..... .... in women's sports." As long as you add, "in women's sports", to anything about the trans community, then it's ok. This was an intentionally work shopped issue by conservative think tanks, when being bigoted against the gay community stopped being a wedge issue among both parties.
But here's always been the bottom line to me personally on this whole issue.
It doesn't matter what my opinion, or your opinion, is on this issue. You don't have to agree w/ how someone else wants to live their lives... as long as they look to do no harm.
We seem to be ok w/ this about a whole host of other issues, but this one... no... we need to stop the 10 trans college women athletes from competing. It's the most important thing ever!
It's all so nonsensical. If it's not really directly impacting your life in any meaningful way... just let people live their lives.
The colleges, and pro sports that really are impacted on this issue, are working out the nuances. This would have happened, no matter what, even if it took more time to do so.
Today's slide. That 90 day tariff pause was nothing more than putting a band-aid on a self inflicted gun shot wound. The major US markets are down for the day, week, month and year-to-date.
I think Jon Oliver did say it well... focusing on trans athletes in sports, it just a vaguely cloaked way to be bigoted against the trans community. It's ok to say, "I don't think trans people should exist..... .... in women's sports." As long as you add, "in women's sports", to anything about the trans community, then it's ok. This was an intentionally work shopped issue by co
Should only trans activists be allowed to influence cultural norms and values?
