Worst played hands at WSOP ME Final Table (post-Moneymaker era)
Bunch of hands out there, as play was pretty bad before the mid 2010s.
But two hands in particular are hilarious.
2007 fin
Filipo Candio has 2 funny ones. First he calls a bet/3b with 75s on 665r. Later he tries to fold a small pocket pair, gets forced into a call due to forward motion, pays off river and claims he rivered a set.
There’s no way it’s not EV+ to automuck (KQJT)o preflop 7+ handed in cash or tournament nlhe. Absolute trash hands. I automucked them in loose 10/20 15/30 LHE games too. All those limp/folds really add up over the years.
Maybe I’m misunderstanding you, but if you are folding KQo or limping any hands in EP in LHE you are always welcome in my games.
What about the 2006 final table when Paul Wasicka folds a straight flush draw when they are 3 handed? If he loses he still gets second place money, if he wins he has a better chance in heads up, because Binger is basically pot committed, so worst case he loses gets crippled and goes out eventually in 3rd place for 4 million.
I remember thinking it was bad at the time but can’t find the recap. He likely figured that Gold was ordained by God no matter what he did and wanted to lock up 2nd and it’s hard to argue with that.
It’s okay if you think that, but live games are still great at every limit, esp when people open limp or fold strong hands in EP.
It's okay if you think that, but live games are still great at every limit, esp when people open limp or fold strong hands in EP.
You definitely misunderstood the limping part but that’s ok. We’ll have to agree to disagree about KQo in EP in a loose 9-10 handed 15-30 LHE 1/2 Kill w/overs game, but that’s ok too. It’s like arguing about vhs v betamax.
It's okay if you think that, but live games are still great at every limit, esp when people open limp or fold strong hands in EP.
You definitely misunderstood the limping part but that’s ok. We’ll have to agree to disagree about KQo in EP in a loose 9-10 handed 15-30 LHE 1/2 Kill w/overs game, but that’s ok too. It’s like arguing about vhs v betamax.
It’s not debatable in loose games, because in loose games people open/cold call Qx and Kx.
I remember thinking it was bad at the time but can’t find the recap. He likely figured that Gold was ordained by God no matter what he did and wanted to lock up 2nd and it’s hard to argue with that.
I think Michael Binger was behind him and still had action available. He was locking up a few million by folding.
I think Michael Binger was behind him and still had action available. He was locking up a few million by folding.
5.4 million in the pot, I got 12.7 left in SB, flop OESF draw, it’s an auto shove. If Binger has a set & Jamie a bigger flush draw (as Wasicka seemed to fear) so be it. No way I’m living with what happened.
Yeah, basically a no brainer call, if Wasicka bothered to think it thru, which he didn't, he folded way too fast. He folded out of fear.At least admit it, don't try to make it a strategic move, or a great read, because it wasn't.
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Yeah, basically a no brainer call, if Wasicka bothered to think it thru, which he didn't, he folded way too fast. He folded out of fear.At least admit it, don't try to make it a strategic move, or a great read, because it wasn't.
If it was me first to act there, my stack’s in the middle before the dealer’s hand is off the cards. To give Paul credit, he finished 2nd of 8773 to a guy running hotter than Icarus, and got $6.4 million.
Under anything approaching normal circumstances, it’s probably correct to fold there, though then why does he call the preflop raise, but that was the most abnormal three handed situation in the history of donkaments.
His comments are selfjustifying shellshocked gibberish. Understandably so.
He was a 54% favorite on the flop. Time to go on the 30 day flip flops & plastic spoons routine after that.
If it was me first to act there, my stack’s in the middle before the dealer’s hand is off the cards. To give Paul credit, he finished 2nd of 8773 to a guy running hotter than Icarus, and got $6.4 million.Under anything approaching normal circumstances, it’s probably correct to fold there, though then why does he call the preflop raise, but that was the most abnormal three hande
I also wonder why he wouldn't shove after the flop, that's almost the best flop he could see, its possible Gold would fold(doubtful) but Binger would most likely call with top pair.
Either one or both calling gives him a chance to chip up, which is what he needs to challenge Gold.
Unless his sole goal was to finish second, he needed to get involved to give him an opportunity to accumulate chips in a favorable hand.
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All,
I have always played to win and not ladder in tournaments, but in all fairness I've never had the good fortune to be playing for real life changing money. Strategically it's pretty hard to justify calling a raise for 10/15% of your stack 3 handed and folding an open ended SF draw however....
This is 2 million dollars (In 2006) and an opportunity to get heads up with Gold whom Wasicka thinks he has a clear edge over. Edge or not its pretty tough to overcome a 10 to 1 chip lead vs an aggressive unpredictable player. If you've ever been in that spot then you can talk but if not, it's hard to speak seriously on what you'd do with an extra 2 million on the line.
Although the worst would be if Binger beats Gold that hand and you would have hit your flush. You'd want to throw up on the table.
If I was Sicka, I would be playing for seconds, but if given that specific spot, I couldn't help myself to play, its almost a virtual lock as far as poker hands go.
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He was down about 76-13 as it played out; would’ve been about 49-40 had he called. In his comments to ESPN—which I completely discount due to his obviously understandable shellshock—Paul seemed to say those two margins are about the same, which is ldo total horsefeathers.
Worth noting the odds on the flop don’t change much even if Binger has AA. Seeing sets & nut flush draws is just Pennywise’s balloons tied to their chairs. There’s a non-trivial chance an 8 or 7 wins the pot for him, especially if his call makes Binger fold two big non-spades.
He’s just in denial about playing for second, mistakenly autocalled the preflop miniraise, then his insides liquefied and his brain froze when he saw that flop. But he won $6.1M in 2006 dollars, tip my hat to him.
Just me personally, even back then nvm now, $4.1M is already life-changing enough, I can never fold there, especially after already putting in over 10% of my stack. I’d see that river Black Mariah everywhere I looked forever, never mind the dreams. Even if first was ‘only’ like 8.5M I still couldn’t do it.
“Everyone has a plan until an OESF draw hits the board.” - Hal Fowler
Nothing there backs up what you're saying but, more importantly , why is limit holdem cash being discussed in this thread?
( or anywhere for that matter)
KQ dominates every other K and Q high and is well ahead of Jack and Ten high hands.
When you hold KQ the combos of {AA, KK, QQ, AK, AQ} are far outweighed by {KJ, KT, QJ, QT, JT, T9, 98, JJ, TT, 99, 88, etc}.
In Limit Holdem, if your UTG opens get cold called or three bet often by worse Kings and Queens it’s a no brainer open. If not, then you can consider folding it.
Edit: actually I forgot about other combos of Ax so it’s really a lot closer than I said and probably a fold in most circumstances even with the blinds overlay. truth is I almost always fold King queen off suit under the gun nine handed, even eight handed in much more. I open it if it’s suited, but again it’s game dynamic dictated.
If I was Sicka, I would be playing for seconds, but if given that specific spot, I couldn't help myself to play, its almost a virtual lock as far as poker hands go.
Im either out in third, or lock up second place money, or I have a good stack to battle Holly wood Goober.
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Just stumbled across this, obviously very far from the ME FT, but somewhat relevant. Phil was certainly a dog here, maybe a big one. Good fold.
Filipo Candio has 2 funny ones. First he calls a bet/3b with 75s on 665r. Later he tries to fold a small pocket pair, gets forced into a call due to forward motion, pays off river and claims he rivered a set.
man, that raise call it off with bottom pair has to be the one of the worst, not to mention his terrible celebration
