President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
As compelling as it is when Trump is incredibly stupid, and regardless of what has ultimately happened with the markets he is incredibly stupid, that's not the big picture. It doesn't mean anyone has forgotten that he is racist, xenophobic and authoritarian; that he, and his supporters are despicable.
if you kill 10 people then magically resurrect 8 of them , you can claim that's "better than Jesus" but it still sucks, and 2 would be dead.
sp500 is still lower than when trump **** everywhere like a drunk pigeon on April 2 with the demented worldwide table of tariffs set on bilateral trade deficits and calling them reciprocal.
The point is this got the worlds attention. Now we will have better trade deals. I get why non Americans are sad.
Never claimed that. And what you think or believe has no relevance to reality. Trump blinked because long bonds were losing value quickly, verified by the investigative journalist with connections to the WH (and a long history of being correct with such reports) and with Trump's own words.
Yeah this makes sense. Bonds crashing because investors have genuine concerns about the stability of the US and not just the economy or inflation is really bad to happen on your watch as a president.
there, there little guy. It sure was! You go play in the corner with your toys and try not to eat anymore crayons.
you wrote this pocket 0/When the long-term debt market goes down (which means yields go up), it becomes more expensive for the government and people to borrow money.
Long bonds were collapsing in just days and getting worse by the hour, and in a market they should have been rising. It means investors were losing confidence in the US economy and voted that no-confidence by taking their money out of the game. That is what will collapse the economy.
In normal situations long bonds drop during improving economic conditions, which means there is plenty of economic growth to support the higher cost of debt.
As compelling as it is when Trump is incredibly stupid, and regardless of what has ultimately happened with the markets he is incredibly stupid, that's not the big picture. It doesn't mean anyone has forgotten that he is racist, xenophobic and authoritarian; that he, and his supporters are despicable.
I guess when your having a bad day because the guy you hate is killing it you fall back on the racist nonsense. Predictable.
The point is this got the worlds attention. Now we will have better trade deals. I get why non Americans are sad.
Right, the global economy is a zero sum game and hurting your partners is the best way to win. Bigly smart there big guy!
The point is this got the worlds attention. Now we will have better trade deals. I get why non Americans are sad.
man you already had awesome deals and when you didn't it was because of domestic opposition to them.
for ex a lot of asian countries were open to lowering/removing tariffs with the USA in 2015-16, with the TPP deal. 11 signatories + the USA.
Trump went against it ferociously during the electoral campaign to the point that Clinton had to flip flop on that as well (because opposition to the TPP polled well) and the TPP died.
trump could very easily achieve the removal of this or that odd relic of a tariff still existing (say, the insane tariffs on diary products over certain quotas that Canada still applies) but he didn't when he redid NAFTA. he didn't ask south Korea or Japan to remove their insane tariffs on rice above quotas or face severe consequences. he didn't ask Vietnam to remove it's still significant car tariffs or face severe consequences.
those would have been attempts at getting further trading advantages that wouldn't have caused any marker panic outside of some niches in the market related to specific sectors or companies.
and he could have played it rough as much as he wanted there saying like "I am giving Vietnam 1 week to remove all tariffs on American made cars or I slap them with a 20% tariff on everything".
but he didn't do that. he did a ******ed blanket tariffing of all partners including those who played by the rules for decades with great reciprocal advantages (like the EU or Switzerland), and he weighted those tariffs in a ******ed way claiming any trade unbalance is proof of unfair trading.
as some smart commentators said in the past days, this was literally "critical trade theory".
the idea that if in a bilateral trading relationship the other side sells more being used as "proof" of foul play.
just leftism at work
TLDR, but gl explaining all that, there are approximately 100 times more words in that post than your interlocutor has brain cells.
April 2, 2025 Trump declares "Liberation Day."
seven days later...
April 9, 2025 Trump blinks first and declares he surrenders.
I guess when your having a bad day because the guy you hate is killing it you fall back on the racist nonsense. Predictable.
What deals got changed idiot? Trump did tariffs and then he backed down on most of them without getting any concessions.
Well boys.... we got some serious insider trading today, with a bad comb over.
Well played... well played.
Here is Trump's "Liberation Day" as a graph for the last week. Damn that is a lot of red. Only to have to backdown and surrender.
Mongoloid victory lapping itt like the mouthbreathing dumbass he is when the market is still down 1% over 7 days and absolutely nothing was gained except chaos for no reason, no deals, and probably a bunch of people getting insanely richer through insider trading
Great stuff
proof Trump friends made a **** ton of money and it wasn't a random flipflop
SPY calls 10 min before Trump announced he was going to delay the tariffs
Well, I made a mistake (of omission) in this market turmoil, that I have no intention of repeating next time Trump plays the way he played these last few days. I don't think Trump is dumb btw, he's just the perfect real life example of that saying, "To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail".
Luci nullifies rightwing philosophy with a single sentence lol
Ding ding ding....
I bet the insider trading Signal chat group was nuts today. Can't imagine the emojis.
They have to be able to determine who bought those calls, right?
Mongoloid victory lapping itt like the mouthbreathing dumbass he is when the market is still down 1% over 7 days and absolutely nothing was gained except chaos for no reason, no deals, and probably a bunch of people getting insanely richer through insider trading
Great stuff
sounds like the system works
lol at “deals” being cut.
You realize lowering the tariffs would basically just be going back to what it was before all this nonsense right?
My mutual fund only went up a tiny bit today. It's still down 8% for the week, and about double that for the year. I guess someone has to pay the cost of insiders getting richer.
Funny that the "fake account" on Twitter was correct though.
Mongoloid victory lapping itt like the mouthbreathing dumbass he is when the market is still down 1% over 7 days and absolutely nothing was gained except chaos for no reason, no deals, and probably a bunch of people getting insanely richer through insider trading
Great stuff
I got significantly wealthier without doing any inside trading. I told you all how it was gonna go down. Get your money out before the predictable fall and then get it in for Wednesday. Too bad your hate for Trump got in your way.
Thosw who think the UK (and othwr governments) aren't going to continue their capitulation to trump on trade/etc related policy matters are sadly very much mistaken imo
Bright side is they will also probably also continue to understand they can't trust 'merica. That may now be engrained sufficiently to make a real difference.
