President Donald Trump

So is all this tariff stuff just Trump and his cronies making fortunes off the swings?

not all no, they do hate china and some other places

i don't think insider trading as a concept should be illegal i think it's absurd it is illegal to begin with, including for CEOs and everyone else.

By making it illegal you make it much more profitable (if it wasn't illegal you would see changes in volumes immediatly and you could trade accordingly). It's like for drugs. Not saying it's "good" when people do insider trading, i am saying making it illegal is worse than accepting it will happen structurally anyway.

Caveat emptor, i am a libertarian.

Are the usual suspects around here still defending it?

the morons who defended tariffs to bring back sweatshops in the USA 24/7 last couple of days are on radio silence on my twitter feed right now

Probably he believed it he was right .
Been spewing this nonsense tariffs over 40 years …

But his a master of turning bad volatile situations (6 bankruptcies) in profits too …
You got to give him credit , he uses « collaterals » efficiently.

Anyone's been listening to Trump right now?
How did he decide to pause tariffs?
He woke up and thought about it and did it.
This morning.

yep

U know insiders trading wasn’t always illegals .
It’s pure fraud tho .
U should read about the great crashes and how it decimated huge portions of populations because of it …..

I’m not surprise u believe it’s A good thing .
The day u would end up on the wrong side u probably would change your mind .

Only another 1382 days of these shenanigans

It's not fraud if you know they can do it. You aren't forced to buy those securities. You decide which risks you want to take. The government has no role in this.

I probably got hit negatively by insider trading as everyone else in my life. It's part of the rake of playing the investing game. Still works very well on average. There is no human right to "good investments", do your research, or spread your risk with indexes and whatnot, and don't ask mama-state to fix things for you.

Or create your own company and hope the government stays out of like and doesn't act mafia like asking for a cut when you make it.

WSJ Exclusive: Trump Takes Aim at Low-Pressure Showers With Executive Order

President Trump took aim at a low-pressure target: wimpy showers.

Trump signed an executive order on Wednesday rolling back a federal regulation he has blamed for poor water pressure. His order would eliminate restrictions the Obama administration placed on how much water can flow from shower heads, an effort to conserve resources. Trump relaxed those standards during his first term, but President Joe Biden put them back in place.

“No longer will shower heads be weak and worthless,” said a draft of Trump’s order, adding that it intended to “make America’s showers great again.”

Trump has for years lamented the effect of low water pressure on his “gorgeous” and “perfect” hair.

​​“I like to take a nice shower to take care of my beautiful hair,” Trump said to laughter in the Oval Office as he signed the order. “You have to stand under the shower for 15 minutes until it gets wet.”

Source: https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trum...

Steered the American economy towards a cliff for little reason, and congress was increasingly likely to jump ship and leave him with the fallout.

I doubt this has increased plans to invest in American manufacturing capacity, and the world has been given incentive to rid itself of dependence on the US.

As for this being some grand plan for people to become rich or richer, Trump's circle was doing that just fine before the events of the last few days. You hardly need to sacrifice 60 years of the US' expensively purchased soft power to grow rich when you have a corrupt administration in charge of the executive branch. So if this was some kind of plan (which I doubt), it was a pretty stupid one.

Also, this farce isn't over.

So are you trying to convince us that libertarians have no value systems? No need... honestly. We got it.

I don't know if I should explain why your analogy to drugs is horrible.

Are his people so stupid that they don't know how to take out the restrictor in the shower heads?

This is idiotic. A free market would not allow insider trading also. When a company comes to you asking for money for an IPO you’d demand not to be insider traded on as a condition to get your money. When someone buys those shares from you later, they’d ask for the same.

Most people can barely change a light bulb without help.

Ask my maintenance division how we know.

WaPo: Trump caved on tariffs. It took a scary bond market freakout

Investors started dumping U.S. government bonds. They sold and sold and sold. This is not normal. Typically, U.S. government bonds are a safe haven. Whenever stocks tank or there’s turmoil around the world, investors rush to buy plain vanilla bonds from the U.S. Treasury. It’s the equivalent of chicken soup for unhealthy markets. But suddenly, those bonds turned bitter.

Ultimately, Trump caved to the bond markets. He admitted to reporters that “people were getting a little queasy” in the bond market. He didn’t want to follow the fate of British Prime Minister Liz Truss, who resigned in humiliation in 2022 after a similar bond market fiasco in reaction to her policies.

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For the United States, the repercussions of all of this could have been substantial — and almost all negative. As investors sold bonds, the yield (the interest rate) soared. The 10-year Treasury yield hit 4.51 percent, up from 3.9 percent earlier in the week, and the 30-year Treasury yield briefly topped 5 percent. This couldn’t be worse for Main Street. It means mortgage rates may top 7 percent again, and borrowing costs for cars, businesses, etc., will surge. It also means the United States government will have to pay even higher interest costs.

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...

My layman understanding of economics is not good enough here. Is this article still relevant, and what does the future now likely hold for US bonds? What is the probable impact of that?

He had to back off for a number of reasons, one being the surge in cost of borrowing.

Your slums have electric lighting? Or is that just in the penthouse suite?

you can self lock yourself voluntarily to get something in exchange. all kind of provisions will happen, and you will get the whole range of options as an investor in an actual free market.

we know for a fact people would invest even without anti-insider trading law because they did when those laws didn't exist, and they do in crypto.

the state is just prohibiting parties to voluntarily enter into arrangements they both agree to, and that is simply something that the state shouldn't do.

then there is the actual current case, political information isn't company information and insider trading as the classic concept doesn't even apply neatly at all.

If treasuries are no longer considered a risk off play it will be huge shock to the financial system. It would be a completely new regime from the previous 50+ years and very painful at the start.

Both the US economy and US government rely on long-term debt. This debt is created when investors loan money to the government /people. The price of all debt (ie, interest rate) is determined by investors' collective willingness to loan their money, which is based on a multitude of factors including their confidence in the economy, government, currency, etc... The longer the debt duration, the more confidence investors must have for the risk they take for committing their money to the loan. When the long-term debt market goes down (which means yields go up), it becomes more expensive for the government and people to borrow money. When that market starts seizing up and going down quickly it means the government/people will have to pay much more to borrow money, or very worst case, nobody will lend them the money. That means a collapse of the economy. That's what freaked Trump out today.

you guys cried for 2 straight days about the stock market going down and then when Trump makes it go up you still get upset?