River card gives me a bluff catcher
$2/3/5 B/SB/BB NL, 8 handed, new game no reads. H probably has ABC image. V is young Asian male.
H opens in LJ $20 9cTc
Folds to SB who makes it $
60.
H calls. Heads up.
($120) 8d 7d 5s
V $75
H calls
($270) 7c
V $120
H calls
($410) Ts
V $300
H ?
I am assuming the 3 calls pre, flop, and turn are ok.
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Stack sizes?
$800 stacks
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$2/3/5 B/SB/BB NL, 8 handed, new game no reads. H probably has ABC image. V is young Asian male.
H opens in LJ $20 9cTc
Folds to SB who makes it $
60.
H calls. Heads up.
($120) 8d 7d 5s
V $75
H calls
($270) 7c
V $120
H calls
($410) Ts
V $300
H ?
I am assuming the 3 calls pre, flop, and turn are ok.
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Pre is close, depending on reads I continue. $800 eff I fold. I don't recall how much money behind you need to play SCs profitably, but I believe it's higher than a set which is 8:1.
Turn is an interesting card. In theory, your range should contain more 7x than his. He should have zero 7x in range from his SB 3b. I wonder if raising or jamming turn has merit. We're trying to capitalize and make him fold all Broadway combos.
River is whatever to me. Bluff catching is not my main strategy to make money especially in a 3b pot. IME, 3 bets from the SB followed by triple barrel aren't Ace or king highs. It's more TT+ if not a tighter range. Smaller sizing I would consider calling.
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Grunch:
PRE - seems fine.
FLOP - I don't love flatting the large flop c-bet with just the OESD. I think we should raise or fold.
I'd lean towards raise, like 3x ($225), because I don't think he's 3B'ing here, when this board favors our range more than his. We can decide if we want to barrel or check back turn to take a free river card.
TURN - His less than 1/2 pot bet looks weak. I still kind of want to raise, but I don't think we have nearly as much fold equity as we would have if we raised flop and barreled turn. We'd have to raise small, if we want to have enough left behind for a chunky river bet.
RIVER - We don't beat value, we didn't give him a lot of rope by showing weakness, it's an under-bluffed line in an under-bluffed spot, culminating in a large bet. It's possible he's bluffing missed diamonds or just taking off with two overs, but he could also just have a value hand that's taking us to value town.
Think we can fold.
Calling
Your hand is a pretty good bluff catcher and his betting line seems f.o.s.
fold pre to the 3b. if you open folded pre that would be fine too, given that you seem to be the passive type and these sc hands suck if you are the passive type. their profit comes aggression.
river is an easy fold to what looks like an obvious overpair. if you were deeper i like bluffraising better than calling because you block TT and anything else is going to have a hard time calling.
Results:
Spoiler
I called. He had pocket queens.
Not loving the call of 3b (even in position) to an unknown at these stack sizes.
River feels like an easy fold against an unknown at live stakes. We generally don't make money at live stakes bluff catching, unless it's very player specific. We have no history on this person; sure occasionally we might pick off a bluff on an unknown rando, but we're never able to do it at a frequency that is profitable.