NL10z interesting river spot..
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 133.1 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
SB: 198.2 BB (VPIP: 17.07, PFR: 17.07, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 41)
Hero (BB): 565.5 BB
UTG: 117.8 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
MP: 86.7 BB (VPIP: 19.51, PFR: 12.20, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 41)
CO: 108.8 BB (VPIP: 19.78, PFR: 17.58, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 91)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7♦ 7♠
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, BTN calls 6 BB
Flop: (18.5 BB, 2 players) 7♥ A♠ T♥
Hero bets 8.7 BB, BTN calls 8.7 BB
Turn: (35.9 BB, 2 players) K♥
Hero bets 21 BB, BTN calls 21 BB
River: (77.9 BB, 2 players) Q♦
Hero ???
What would you guys do on the riv here??
10 Replies
I would check.. if they shoved I think it's close.. but around pot sized bet or less I'd call.
oh god, 3 bet pf without pot control.... seems familiar
no jacks no hearts :(
What do you guys think about checking turn here? Too nitty?
I think your turn bet is too big, it's a bad card for your range and for your hand. I would check or bet small.
As played on the river I would bet fold small, trying to get a crying call from 2 pairs and not giving credit to them for bluff raising
Weird preflop play, I guess you can 3bet 77 rarely but 9BB vs a 3BB open you give them great odds to call and will have to play an inflated pot out of position when most boards will give you headaches.
I think your turn bet is too big, it's a bad card for your range and for your hand. I would check or bet small.As played on the river I would bet fold small, trying to get a crying call from 2 pairs and not giving credit to them for bluff raisingWeird preflop play, I guess you can 3bet 77 rarely but 9BB vs a 3BB open you give them great odds to call and will have to play an inf
How is it a bad card for my range? I have JJ+/AK as pfr, its worse for villain cuz he has no AA/KK n easily has JJ/QQ/maybeAK which would call if they have a heart
What else can you do vs btn 3bb range vs random villain?.. Calling seems too weak oop n we cant fold.. Are you saying it should be more than 9bb
What else can you do vs btn 3bb range vs random villain?.. Calling seems too weak oop n we cant fold.. Are you saying it should be more than 9bb
You should be calling a lot from BB vs BTN open I don't think it is weak. also BTNs range isn't that strong. if you do 3bet then should be 12-13bb I think.
How is it a bad card for my range? I have JJ+/AK as pfr, its worse for villain cuz he has no AA/KK n easily has JJ/QQ/maybeAK which would call if they have a heart
You 3bet all sorts of unsuited hands, from pocket pairs to AKo. Villain has a big flush advantage, especially since both Kh and Th are on the board: you are the one who could have more AhKh or AhTh type of hands, whereas villain has more suited connectors or lower broadways. You can't bet big anymore.
I checked in solver, it's an very broad approximation (I use proper preflop ranges where we 3 bet to 13BB, especially BB has some trash in their 3betting range), but you see it checks or bet small only. There is no big bet.
When somehow we still bet big as you did, the solver bets small on the river or checks. Since villain is supposed to pure fold KT and it won't happen in real life I believe you should just bet small always as I suggested.
What else can you do vs btn 3bb range vs random villain?.. Calling seems too weak oop n we cant fold.. Are you saying it should be more than 9bb
Preflop is a solved problem, you can find very good free charts online. GTOwizard has free charts for all sorts of stack sizes and open sizes. Of course you can and must deviate from the charts because you are not playing against computers, but the basics remain the same : from BB we want to 3bet very polarized (with premiums and trash), and then we want to 3bet big. 13BB is the suggested size!
It seems a bit weird but it's very profitable, even at microstakes. They overfold a lot and never 4bet bluff.
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Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♦ 9♣
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold
Hero wins 4.5 BB
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SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2♦ Q♦
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold
Hero wins 5.1 BB
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SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5♥ Q♥
fold, fold, CO raises to 2.3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold
Hero wins 5.1 BB
€0.10 NL FAST (6 max)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9♥ K♠
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold
Hero wins 5.5 BB
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SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4♠ Q♠
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 13 BB, BTN calls 10 BB
Flop: (26.5 BB, 2 players) 2♥ T♣ K♠
Hero bets 8.3 BB, BTN calls 8.3 BB
Turn: (43.1 BB, 2 players) 7♣
Hero bets 27.3 BB, BTN calls 27.3 BB
River: (97.7 BB, 2 players) 5♦
Hero bets 51.4 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 51.4 BB
Hero shows 4♠ Q♠ (High Card, King)
BTN shows A♦ Q♥ (High Card, Ace)
BTN wins 190.5 BB
Ooops
