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12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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for ex weez, UK pandemic plan from 2011

pag 37

4.15 Although there is a perception that the wearing of facemasks by the public in the
community and household setting may be beneficial, there is in fact very little evidence
of widespread benefit from their use in this setting. Facemasks must be worn correctly,
changed frequently, removed properly, disposed of safely and used in combination with
good respiratory, hand, and home hygiene behaviour in order for them to achieve the
intended benefit. Research also shows that compliance with these recommended
behaviours when wearing facemasks for prolonged periods reduces over time.

pag 39

Restrictions on public gatherings and public transport
4.21 There is very limited evidence that restrictions on mass gatherings will have any
significant effect on influenza virus transmission14. Large public gatherings or crowded
events where people may be in close proximity are an important indicator of ‘normality’
and may help maintain public morale during a pandemic.
The social and economic
consequences of advising cancellation or postponement of large gatherings are likely to
be considerable for event organisers, contributors and participants. There is also a lack
of scientific evidence on the impact of internal travel restrictions on transmission and
attempts to impose such restrictions would have wide-reaching implications for business
and welfare.
4.22 For these reasons, the working presumption will be that Government will not impose any
such restrictions
. The emphasis will instead be on encouraging all those who have
symptoms to follow the advice to stay at home and avoid spreading their illness.
However, local organisers may decide to cancel or postpone events in a pandemic
fearing economic loss through poor attendances, and the public themselves may decide
not to mix in crowds, or use public transport if other options are available.

(schools)

School closures
4.23 There is modelling data highlighting the potential benefit of school closures in certain
circumstances15, both in terms of protecting individual children from infection and in
reducing overall transmission of the virus in the population. However, to be effective
prolonged closures are required. This would involve schools over a wide area, but
carries a risk that social mixing of children outside school would defeat the object of the
closures.
4.24 However, under some circumstances head teachers (and their Boards of Governors
where relevant) may take the decision to close individual establishments temporarily.
Such closures should be guided by the following planning principles:
• Using a precautionary approach in the early stages of an influenza pandemic and
depending on the public health risk assessment, Directors of Public Health may
advise localised closures (individual schools or catchment areas). The purpose
would be to reduce the initial spread of infection locally while gathering more
information about the spread of the virus.

14 Impact of mass gatherings on an influenza pandemic. Scientific Evidence Base Review 2011
15 House T, Baguelin M, van Hoek AJ, White PJ, Sadique Z, Eames K, Read JM, Hens N, Melegaro A, Edmunds WJ, MJ
Keeling. Modelling the impact of local reactive school closures on critical care provision during an influenza pandemic.
Proceedings of the Royal Society series B (in press).
UK Influenza Pandemic Preparedness Strategy 2011
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• Once the virus is more established in the country, the general policy would be that
schools should not close – unless there are specific local business continuity
reasons (staff shortages or particularly vulnerable children). This policy will be
reviewed in light of information about how the pandemic is unfolding at the time.
4.25 The impact of closure of schools and similar settings on all sectors would have
substantial economic and social consequences, and have a disproportionately large
effect on health and social care because of the demographic profile of those employed
in these sectors. Such a step would therefore only be taken in an influenza pandemic
with a very high impact and so, although school closures cannot be ruled out, it should
not be the primary focus of schools’ planning.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio...

Not even the vague idea of closing barbers at all. Remember, this was even with spanish flu mortality


Former Philippines president Rodrigo Duterte is turned over to the ICC to face trial for crimes against humanity, over his war on drugs during his presidency.
https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/icc-ta...


Dude sent out death squads that murdered ~7000 "drug dealers" with no trial over a year and a half. Crazy stuff


another win for the globalist left that wants to dictate "rights" and tradeoff priorities worldwide.

the system has to be completely dismantled and sovereignty must be absolute within your borders.


by Luciom

another win for the globalist left that wants to dictate "rights" and tradeoff priorities worldwide.

the system has to be completely dismantled and sovereignty must be absolute within your borders.

The current president gave him up.

Could have just killed him like Duarte did to all those people


by coordi

The current president gave him up.

Could have just killed him like Duarte did to all those people

so why wasn't this dealt with Philippinian courts? who needs the ICC for that?

why the actual **** is the ICC involved at all?


by Luciom

so why wasn't this dealt with Philippinian courts? who needs the ICC for that?

why the actual **** is the ICC involved at all?

Philippines agreed to and signed the Rome Statute that established the ICC and Duarte only withdrew after the ICC began investigating him.

I'm sure its mostly a convenient way for the current president to get rid of a political opponent


by Luciom

so why wasn't this dealt with Philippinian courts? who needs the ICC for that?

why the actual **** is the ICC involved at all?

Somebody call the ICC Luciom has an important question 😀


by wet work

Somebody call the ICC Luciom has an important question 😀

ICC people have to watch out for themselves currently, one of the many good things the trump administration is doing is treating them as the enemies they are, sanctioning some of them.

the idea of unelected people not directly delegated by elected politicians, basically an untouchable caste of mandarins you have NO recourse against if you believe they act wrong, having ANY power at all over us is horrific beyond imagination and should be ended immediately by any mean necessary.

I refute the idea that a democracy can delegate, can cede ANY power at all to such a body. it is a violation of the deepest principles of our constitutions in the west. it's fully undemocratic and should be ended, completely.


the USA as usual was smarter and never joined that monstrous anti democratic cabal.

but most of us did and if trump can help us liberate from those people, it would be very nice indeed.


in other news, these are the kind of people some of you think is proper to cease sovereignty to

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn892z...

A United Nations judge has been convicted of forcing a young woman to work as a slave.

Prosecutors said Lydia Mugambe "took advantage of her status" over her victim by preventing her from holding down steady employment while forcing her to work as her maid and provide childcare for free.

The 49-year-old, who is also a High Court judge in Uganda, was found guilty of conspiring to facilitate the commission of a breach of UK immigration law, facilitating travel with a view to exploitation, forcing someone to work, and conspiracy to intimidate a witness

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and we only got this monster because she was living in one of our countries.

had she lived elsewhere, she would still have the power to decide upon our lives in some cases, and we would have no recourse


by weeeez

I can picture Lucy in a massive orgy, wanking over a portrait of Mussolini while reciting some satanic verses and thinking to himself:
tomorrow I will beat my post count.

Now I'm thinking of 120 days of P&S by Pasolini


by coordi

The current president gave him up.

Could have just killed him like Duarte did to all those people

You mean all those *checks notes* drug dealers.😀
I wonder if the El Salvador president will eventually face a warrant over his mass detentions.


by Luciom

another win for the globalist left that wants to dictate "rights" and tradeoff priorities worldwide.

the system has to be completely dismantled and sovereignty must be absolute within your borders.

You believe that if Germany hadn’t invaded any countries they should have been allowed to peruse the Holocaust of German Jews within its own borders.


by jalfrezi

You believe that if Germany hadn’t invaded any countries they should have been allowed to peruse the Holocaust of German Jews within its own borders.

what are you proposing we do to China and the tibetan and uighur genocides they committed?


by Luciom

what are you proposing we do to China and the tibetan and uighur genocides they committed?

Not remotely the same situation as Germany in the 1940s, but nice attempt at swerving it.


I mean, they have millions of people in concentration camps based on ethnicity, and they use torture, rape, sterilization, forced IUDs and kidnapping children to eradicate their culture. And if you think people aren't being killed in those camps, I got a bridge to sell you.

So it seems pretty damn similar to Nazi Germany's concentration camps from 1940 to 1942. They might not yet be at the stage of the Endlösung from '42 and onwards, but that honestly seems more like a question of optics for the party than some moral barrier.


by tame_deuces

I mean, they have millions of people in concentration camps based on ethnicity, and they use torture, rape, sterilization, forced IUDs and kidnapping children to eradicate their culture. And if you think people aren't being killed in those camps, I got a bridge to sell you.So it seems pretty damn similar to Nazi Germany's concentration camps from 1940 to 1942. They might not ye

I love that these liberals need video evidence and multiple confessions from the killers on tape and signed by a lawyer before they ever believe an atrocity was committed by an Israeli. but when it comes to a Chinese person, only their bigoted and propagandized imagination is required.


by corpus vile

You mean all those *checks notes* drug dealers.😀
I wonder if the El Salvador president will eventually face a warrant over his mass detentions.

Even if we ignore the entire bureaucratic debacle of due process, we can probably surmise that when you give the police the extra-judicial power to kill group X by the thousands, the innocent people who die in the process are also going to be designated group X.


by corpus vile

You mean all those *checks notes* drug dealers.😀

I wonder if the El Salvador president will eventually face a warrant over his mass detentions.

Heard country is safe now, with the lowest homicide rate in Latin America. 98% homicide decrease since 2015. Tourism has increased. Sounds good. Perhaps some extra people are now locked up that shouldn't be. That's not good if so.


by Victor

I love that these liberals need video evidence and multiple confessions from the killers on tape and signed by a lawyer before they ever believe an atrocity was committed by an Israeli. but when it comes to a Chinese person, only their bigoted and propagandized imagination is required.

As someone who is probably best described as a liberal, I agree with you. The obviously racist narratives and double standards around this stuff is insane. Those in power always have a tendency to abuse, it's human nature. There are no collectively good or bad people in this world, just an ongoing march towards systems that limit tyranny. It's stupid to be an apologist for the abuses of any state including Israel.


I mean, there is no shortage of evidence of Chinese concentration camps or what goes on in them.

That Victor buries his head in the sand and declares any such evidence propaganda, because he would rather have his views remain unchallenged is on him, not everyone else.


You literally admitted in your posts that there is no evidence of murder let alone mass murder there. It's just what you surmise.

Btw, what do you think of the mass incarceration in the USA?


by housenuts

Heard country is safe now, with the lowest homicide rate in Latin America. 98% homicide decrease since 2015. Tourism has increased. Sounds good. Perhaps some extra people are now locked up that shouldn't be. That's not good if so.

he caved to the IMF and removed btc as legal tender though


by Luciom

he caved to the IMF and removed btc as legal tender though

Ya soft. IMF is terrorist organization

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