Bodybuilding Classic Physique Division Offseason log

Bodybuilding Classic Physique Division Offseason log

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16 July 2022 at 04:27 PM
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by GuyThatGoesToDaGym

For people who take "normal" career paths, school rank is of much more importance than I'd previously known when I was a lad. The normie teribad advice is "just make sure you maximize what you learn in college, it doesn't really matter where you go " and this is especially bad advice for people with only a bachelor's degree. that said, my career/life path is so abnormal that I

yeah i hard agree with this, one of my biggest regrets in life is not applying myself when i was younger - one thing i'll definitely do if i procreate is be very hands on and militant tiger dad style with forcing them to excel in school and really put in the effort and pay for all the SAT prep they can handle


by GuyThatGoesToDaGym

they are libs

i don't see this place as a conservative space, more just one with people who like to discuss practical reality rather than "wouldn't it be amazing if we gave free healthcare to all immigrants despite that our citizens still don't have it because they are more vulnerable than we are"


That's good. I don't see myself as conservative. I use lib pegoratively as somebody who is not actually liberal but holds a bunch of dipshit beliefs largely out of social pressure and conformity rather than a well researched understanding of human nature which then informs a world view about how society ought to be arranged in a realistic and pragmatic way to optimize human flourishing.


Here is a fun question for Monte-friend-wife group: "Is having a teenage boy and girl share a bedroom constitute child abuse?" (Generally immediate family or having been raised in the same household at a min.)

Think some of you folks would be actually shocked and not "SHOCKED" at the results from the demographic in question.

But yeah, they're definitely sympathetic to the poor. Ironically, this is actually a genocidal belief.


by rickroll

one thing i'll definitely do if i procreate is be very hands on and militant tiger dad style with forcing them to excel in school and really put in the effort and pay for all the SAT prep they can handle

yeah, good luck with that


by feel wrath

yeah, good luck with that

yeah will definitely be a struggle but at the very least, i'm not going to take the laissez faire approach to school that my parents took (they are educators as well, unsure if they thought it'd be good for us to figure it out on our own, thought whatever our result would be good because it marked big progress from their own situations and how they were raised in blue collar non-educated families or they were just wiped out and didn't have it in them to add that to the queue of things to worry about

at the very least though i'm getting my kids into mandatory sat prep classes

just saying that for me personally, i could have definitely gone to an ivy league had i applied myself - i didn't apply myself because i didn't think i could get into an ivy league because you needed an sat score about better than my own, then i learn that most of my friends who went to ivies with 1500s got a 1200 their first time pre-studying, which was lower than my own

a bit of a chicken or the egg because even if i magically had the sat score required my failure to get straight as would have held me back anyway but if i had known harvard was on the table as a realistic option and not just some mythical institution out of reach then i definitely would have done a little more than the bare minimum required to skate by on attendence alone

and yes, i think my life today would be materially different for the better if i had gone to an ivy, would have probably been accepted into some positions that i didn't even get an interview in and it would have definitely increased my dating opportunities


it is extremely difficult to get teenagers to do things they don't want to do. like, way way way harder than you imagine


oh yeah i get that, spending a lot of time with friends and family with kids lately and it's an insane amount of time and money and even then they're constantly failing to comply and always being sneaky

i'm helping out some friends with their kids a lot recently and they are always pushing things to the limit and i'm constantly reminded about how much stuff i got away with under my parents noses and that for every thing i catch them they probably got away with it 2x more

kind of like penalties in nfl games, there's so many of them because the majority are uncalled so you just do pass interference on most plays with the understanding that it'll be called against you only 2-3 times in a game


by NotThremp

Here is a fun question for Monte-friend-wife group: "Is having a teenage boy and girl share a bedroom constitute child abuse?" (Generally immediate family or having been raised in the same household at a min.)Think some of you folks would be actually shocked and not "SHOCKED" at the results from the demographic in question.But yeah, they're definitely sympathetic to the poor. I

I wanna hear what Monte actually says before we judge, but if you mean "white upper middle class groupthink hivemind women, gays, and cucks" more broadly then yeah they end up with a lot of contradicting and "Genocidal" beliefs. "Defund the police" is probably the best example.


by feel wrath

it is extremely difficult to get teenagers to do things they don't want to do. like, way way way harder than you imagine

I'm not a parent, but in my observation kids don't listen, they observe and imitate. They're more keen observers than we give them credit for and a lot of "rebellion" is just imitation of the parts of ourselves we are ashamed of and try hard to keep hidden.

The peer group and environment probably has a lot more influence than parents directly, so a lot of the way parents can get kids to adopt certain behaviours is carefully curating their peer group. That's the value of things like private school and after school tutoring; it's the people it puts your child in contact with and who is exerting influence over them.

You can't get a kid to take studying seriously by yelling at them or by explaining rationally about why this will benefit them in 10 years; you need to put them in an environment where there's a direct relationship between academic success and social status and the associated neurochemical reward from moving up status hierarchies. My current school is failing hard at this by giving trophies and praise for literally anything and everything (participation trophy because its so westernized) rather than using it more selectively to where it actually means something. We dead seriously bring elementary school 4th graders up to the stage to congratulate them for getting 3rd place out of 5 in a local Tae-Kwon Do tournament. The previous school would bring up the top 2 scorers on each mid-term and award them ~2-3k usd tuition refunds. It didn't happen often and you had to do something hard to achieve these awards and get a photo on the stage, so it actually meant something and got kids striving toward it.

And when a kid got an oxford/cambridge offer, stratospheric status boost, advertised on all of our media platforms, interviewed by local tv news, picture plastered everywhere, the early developing b!tches/tall kpop bois start wanting to talk to them.

This school will have 0 oxbridge offers for the next decade most likely. It's actually kind of amazing how many oxbridge offers the previous school I worked at got because we had a student body of like 120-150 during my time there and a decrepit old campus without enough desks and chairs for incoming 10th graders and overworked teachers with huge class sizes and big teaching loads. But we set up that aspect of "academic success->social status and "reproductive success" (not literally, but it would make you much more popular with the opposite sex)" so well and overall had very good teachers and very smart recruitment strategies so we were able to make a lot out of relatively few resources.

The current place has opulence. Excessive and unused resources. Still can't make much of it because it's hamstrung by a British HQ that pushes back on changes we want to make to adapt to the local culture and environment.


by GuyThatGoesToDaGym

Campaigning against voter ID laws but then saying "illegal immigrants shouldn't vote" is implicitly allowing them to vote.

This is not true. Not going to politard here as promised. If you are interested in my thoughts, please PM me and I can send you a text wall which you may choose to read at your convenience.

"kick out illegal immigrants" is considered pretty right-wing in the uk tho. At least among the UK people I spend all my days with, maybe they are more lib than the country more broadly.

Ya, that's different from what was talking about. I said being against birthright citizenship would be mainstream in UK as that is the current law and as far as I'm aware there isn't any major initiative to change that. I'd suspect that "kick out illegal immigrants" is also way more mainstream than you think. Both here and in the UK. I don't know a single IRL dem that would have a problem with that. Biden deported facktons of people as did Obama. However, online, I know quite a few people who would have a problem with that without further elaboration.

I remember one guy was surprised when I said "yes we should deport illegal immigrants" and he said "but weren't you an immigrant to America?"

That dude sounds like a moron*, tbh. Can't judge the whole other side by him. Even most normies understand the difference between someone who immigrates here legally and someone who doesn't.

*I suppose it's possible he was arguing two levels up and setting up some deep philosophical argument, but I assume you would have mentioned that if he had done it.


by Melkerson

Not going to politard here as promised.

if you post the proof of being strong you can


by Melkerson

This is not true. Not going to politard here as promised. If you are interested in my thoughts, please PM me and I can send you a text wall which you may choose to read at your convenience.

2ppsx10 hbbs atg, 2.5ppx10 dl, 1.5ppx10 bp, 10 pulllups, or 1pps ohp for a set of 10.

Some sort of arbitrary 'impressive' thing with rfess or a single bw muscle up also acceptable. I can be flexible on what constitutes "basic human in control of his own life strong".


by GuyThatGoesToDaGym

This could lead me on to a long tangent about Chinese people failing to differentiate between "foreigners" overseas, "foreigners" in their country

fun fact, chinese who live abroad still call the locals "foreigners"


by rickroll

if you post the proof of being strong you can

I am both fat and not strong at the moment. Is problem. Facked up my knee and ankle last year. Trying to get back to it.


by GuyThatGoesToDaGym

2ppsx10 hbbs atg, 2.5ppx10 dl, 1.5ppx10 bp, 10 pulllups, or 1pps ohp for a set of 10.

Some sort of arbitrary 'impressive' thing with rfess or a single bw muscle up also acceptable. I can be flexible on what constitutes "basic human in control of his own life strong".

I can't think of anything impressive with rfess. Ever since I switched to rfess from back squats, it feels too easy. Probably need to change weight or form.

I'm sure I could get to 10 non-kipping pullups with minimal training. That is so achievable, you should consider taking it off.

Am I reading that right on the BP? 80kg x10? Shiet, I could do that right now.


we'll call it 185lbs american tard units.

video and politard privileges reinstated.


by GuyThatGoesToDaGym

we'll call it 185lbs american tard units.

video and politard privileges reinstated.

Ok, that I know I can't do. I did 185 x 8 a couple of weeks ago. Had at most one in the tank. On the road now and haven't lifted since. I'm sort of training for a 10k (like a donk with no real program). But I guess I'm no more than a few weeks away from politarding to my heart's content.

Also, just so we're clear, you're being pretty lenient here. 185x10 is not strong. Trust me.


There is no way melkerson can bench 185x10, I will eat my shorts man.


by Melkerson

Ok, that I know I can't do. I did 185 x 8 a couple of weeks ago. Had at most one in the tank. On the road now and haven't lifted since. I'm sort of training for a 10k (like a donk with no real program). But I guess I'm no more than a few weeks away from politarding to my heart's content. Also, just so we're clear, you're being pretty lenient here. 185x10 is not strong. Tru

never trust a man who says "trust me"


"basic human strong" meaning less than that is literal sub-humanity.

nervous about tonight's 50kg db incline workout boyos. First time I've been nervous about any workout that didn't involve hbbs/conv dl in a long time. I'll be first on the whiteboard among my Chinese/foreigners in China pler friends despite not being a strength athlete if I hit 9+. Got a guy who benches 170kg @106 who was only able to do 50kgx7 tng. Current record is 50kgx9 tng @ 104 by a guy who is benching around 180-185.

After tonights workout with 50s, I'll drop down to 40s and work back up with 2.5kg jumps and probably set just little easy submax rep prs and avoid pushing to full failure b/c I'll be starting a deficit. and maybe increase to 3 sets instead of 2.


by loco

There is no way melkerson can bench 185x10, I will eat my shorts man.

I can't right now. I said as much. Could I get there in about a month? I'll go heads up for rolls with you on that. Assuming I have you covered, I'll even make you a sweet deal to be the manager of my newly acquired properties. I also promise no rent increases for 10yrs on the one you live in. I'm not a monster.

Cheat and go, of course.

Why the fack would I freely admit that I can't do any of his challenges and claim that I'm pretty close to one of them. What would even be the point? I really have to hear this.


by feel wrath

never trust a man who says "trust me"

To be clear, I'm saying you should trust me that 185 x 10 is not strong. Are you suggesting that 185 x 10 is strong? Is that what you're going with?

Man, H&F really is dead.


by GuyThatGoesToDaGym

"basic human strong" meaning less than that is literal sub-humanity.

Fair enough. Sub humanity is where I'd put my current health and fitness. Injuries plus dealing with other life shiet has me in a bad place right now. Need to try to push through loco-style.


by Melkerson

To be clear, I'm saying you should trust me that 185 x 10 is not strong. Are you suggesting that 185 x 10 is strong? Is that what you're going with?

Man, H&F really is dead.

no. I'm saying 'never trust a man who says "trust me"'

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