J5 suited on straddle interesting spot

J5 suited on straddle interesting spot

2/5 9 handed most stacks around 1400$
Table is all straddling for 10$ UTG
Hero on the straddle new to table 1000$ eff
SB V1 MAWG no read never seen him before short stacked around 480$
HJ V2 older white guy 60-70s 1600$ eff

Hero Js5s UTG
folds to HJ calls, button calls, SB calls
Flop 10h, 6s, 7s (Pot $45)
sb (V1) bets 10$, Hero calls, V2 (HJ) calls, button folds

Turn 8s (pot $75)
V1 Jams $460?!?!?!!.... hero?

06 March 2025 at 10:34 PM
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Randomize?

I have no idea. Seems close. No reads. Consult the magic 8 ball.


Ouch. What vibe is he giving off? Pure table read or coin flip. You also have a player behind you, so maybe just sigh fold.


Hard to know, but the bet feels like one that doesn't want to be called. Doubt the nut flush is piling in here, so we have flushes with Ks or Qs totally dominating us, but I thnk there's just enough stuff like lower flushes, Asx, and even some random overplayed hands like made straights or sets.

Also worth considering that he led flop; he could be just trying to set price, but in general would not expect a flush draw to lead into a 4 way limped pot.

The player behind us is a worru, but I think it's a sigh call, and agree it's really close.


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I ended up folding just couldn't risk getting stacked off against the player behind me. They both had two pair one weaker then the other and no spades... would've won sigh :(


Honestly, how often do you think the population is going to show you a worse hand here, and how often do you see a better one?

We can debate "random spaz factor", but when we've only put $10 (1BB) in voluntarily (not considering our straddle as a VPIP), it seems like a pretty standard fold for 46 BB's.

If we never fold the best hand, we're calling too much.

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