2/2 Live 4 handed. AKK6 nf blocker monotone flop turns trips

2/2 Live 4 handed. AKK6 nf blocker monotone flop turns trips

Hero ~$1100 2/2 live plo

We are 4 handed. Sb is an okay fish, bb HUGE fish, co is tightest player known to man, he folds constantly pre and if post flop he folds everything but the nuts, btn is hero with AKK6ss with K6ss and naked Ah

Hero btn straddle $10, sb $30, bb call, co call, hero pot $150, all 4 call

Going to the flop sb has us covered, bb and co have a little less than 1 spr, hero has ~$950

Flop ($600) J86hhh
X to hero, hero $150, sb call

I think this is fine. 1/4 is my default on monotone flops. Although 4 to the flop we block the nuts, CO only plays the nuts (super surprised he called pre, he probably had AA since ive seen him limp it) so I know he folds, sb wouldn't ship a middling flush but would call and also calls sets possibly 2 pair but idk, bb ships after I bet if he has any flush (likely just donk jam) and would peel with 2 pair or sets for sure.

Heads up to turn

Turn ($900) 6x
Sb x, hero?

Board pairs, but we have trips. Check, bet, or jam and why?

01 March 2025 at 11:21 AM
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by Phraust

Hero ~$1100 2/2 live ploWe are 4 handed. Sb is an okay fish, bb HUGE fish, co is tightest player known to man, he folds constantly pre and if post flop he folds everything but the nuts, btn is hero with AKK6ss with K6ss and naked AhHero btn straddle $10, sb $30, bb call, co call, hero pot $150, all 4 callGoing to the flop sb has us covered, bb and co have a little less than 1 s

You have a little less than a pot size bet left on the turn. If SB will call all his flushes as stated you are often (but not always) behind when he calls your turn bet but even if behind you will often suck out. But his flop call of your rather small flop wager could also be something like top two or a hand that contains a worse six (maybe a straight wrap with a pair). I'd check behind with the intention of folding to a river jam. If he checks again on the river he certainly is not full and I'd consider jamming even if you don't improve. But you would need a decent live read for this one.

On this sort of monotone flop my default wager (whether it's with the nut blocker, a small flush, or a set) is a bit larger (more like half pot). IMO this does a better job of folding small flushes and giving sets worse odds to fill. Wonder what others think here.


I’m not 3b pre and probably ok to surrender flop with 2 fish in. As played I’m surrendering turn, we don’t have a lot of boats.


by Phraust

Hero ~$1100 2/2 live plo

We are 4 handed. Sb is an okay fish, bb HUGE fish, co is tightest player known to man, he folds constantly pre and if post flop he folds everything but the nuts, btn is hero with AKK6ss with K6ss and naked Ah

Your well written set up made me think of something I'm curious about.

I've always liked to keep an extremely tight player on my left when starting a game (usually easy to spot just by their "look") or if I have a choice of two or more seats when joining a nearly full game. With the nit/rock/OMC/nut-peddler behind it's almost like playing with two buttons per round. I don't think this is as noticeable or resented as moving to a seat immediately behind an extremely loose player as your opponents tend to see the latter as bum-hunting (especially in NL holdem), especially if you do it a lot.

But in the case above it is so extreme I would really want to move getting the nut-peddler on my left especially if this short game looks like it's going to hold or fill up. Would any of you who post here do this and if so how do you disguise your reasons for the move to avoid a reputation as a bum-hunter?

I'll try things like wait till I get unlucky on a hand and move to a "luckier seat" OR move to a seat with a better view of a ball game OR claim I can't see the cards from an end seat OR move from a middle seat to an end seat to "get more leg room". Fortunately I'm only a part time player and tend to play different venues so I'm not that well known.


Preflop good

Flop is great but I’d bet a lil larger like $200-225

Turn is interesting. I’d take a read on the player. Some I would pot against and live with, others I would check and realize as they would always call with hands like shit 2 pairs. This is a live thing tho.

In theory i believe we bet with this hand. We block NF and trips and the board pair allows lower flushes to fold while also giving us equity when called. I’d imagine this is a POT at this turn SPR or check and this hand pots. We can also pot with a hand like AhJ8 that blocks all boats and the NFB. This is why it’s important to bet monotone flops with hands like sets and 2 pairs with high flush blockers in order to have turned boats. If you don’t do this tho then just check ur range on board pairing turns when u bet monotone flops cuz you will run into spots like this that u don’t know what to do and feel unprotected.


by middlebridge
by Phraust

Hero ~$1100 2/2 live ploWe are 4 handed. Sb is an okay fish, bb HUGE fish, co is tightest player known to man, he folds constantly pre and if post flop he folds everything but the nuts, btn is hero with AKK6ss with K6ss and naked Ah

Your well written set up made me think of something I'm curious about.I've always liked to keep an extremely tight player on my left when starting a

Money flows left in poker. All I care about is that the biggest losers at the table aren’t on my left. If so, it becomes much harder to win the money. I’ll move anywhere that puts the biggest loser to my right whether that’s directly or 2-4 seats over. The minute they are on my left tho you have to play so incredibly tight it becomes unenjoyable and I genuinely enjoy playing poker.

A rock to your left is good if it’s a folding rock. If it’s a nit who limp calls double suited aces the same as 9854ss but only piles money in post flop with the nuts it becomes a lil more tricky.


Crazy spot. My first question is, is our hand good enough to 3b in this game where we probably don't have a lot of fold equity? And we are getting a good price on our button to just call and see a flop. Not sure if 3b or call is the way to go here.

Turn is a very weird spot. People are going to assume we have a lot of AA with dry Ah, so they will call flushes on the flop, but they will call sets too. If we are repping a flush on the flop, turn should look very bad for us. Like either we are checking now or deciding to just go with a flush by jamming here. Either way, I think a lot of people are not going to fold a flush here. I think the board pair makes us look more suspect in a way even if we would play a flush that way.

We don't have a lot of outs vs a made hand, but I can't really think of many better bluff candidates. I guess AhA6X is better because it is more likely villain has Kh blocking one of our outs. But I don't think you will ever have the dry Ah with a 6 and not hold AA or KK. I don't see how you ever have more than 6 outs vs a flush, less vs a boat.

I wonder if the best exploitative strategy would be to check back and consider bluff jamming river depending on how much villain likes to hero call? I think villains will have a hard time resisting the urge to bet their boats on the river always reasoning they can get called by the nut flush and not thinking they will get bluffed. But it is easy for them to check call the turn with boats as they don't need protection.


by Mlark

Crazy spot. My first question is, is our hand good enough to 3b in this game where we probably don't have a lot of fold equity? And we are getting a good price on our button to just call and see a flop. Not sure if 3b or call is the way to go here.Turn is a very weird spot. People are going to assume we have a lot of AA with dry Ah, so they will call flushes on the flop, bu

We aren’t only repping a flush tho betting 33% on monotone boards.

If you are the type of player to only bet flushes tho here then I agree, check range on this turn and protect yourself.

But yet another reason why being balanced in spots like this is so important. Make sure as players you all are betting pairs and sets with flush blockers in spots like this on flops, so you can bet these turns.


by middlebridge

Your well written set up made me think of something I'm curious about.I've always liked to keep an extremely tight player on my left when starting a game (usually easy to spot just by their "look") or if I have a choice of two or more seats when joining a nearly full game. With the nit/rock/OMC/nut-peddler behind it's almost like playing with two buttons per round. I don't th

Yeah I've been saying this for about 15 years. You can go from -ev in a game with deep loose lags on your left and short tags on your right, to +ev in that same game if you swap it round, for the reasons you've pointed out. Having predictable, rocky, honest tags on your left is a dream.


by Echemondo

We aren't only repping a flush tho betting 33% on monotone boards.If you are the type of player to only bet flushes tho here then I agree, check range on this turn and protect yourself. But yet another reason why being balanced in spots like this is so important. Make sure as players you all are betting pairs and sets with flush blockers in spots like this on flops, so you can

This is how I bet all of my hands that I plan on betting the flop with (sets, flushes, 2 pairs, top pair with 1 of the suit blockers, nf blocker etc.) Always 25% to 33%, with sizing changing depending on how many in the hand, table dynamic, etc.


by wazz

Yeah I've been saying this for about 15 years. You can go from -ev in a game with deep loose lags on your left and short tags on your right, to +ev in that same game if you swap it round, for the reasons you've pointed out. Having predictable, rocky, honest tags on your left is a dream.

On top of this many rocks (even "experienced" rocks or for that matter many typical players) often reveal that they are folding, calling, or calling/raising pre-flop (and to a lessor extent post flop) well before the action gets to them. When this person is on your left you don't want to make it obvious you are looking for this but if you can do it discretely it really adds to ones win rate.

That said I like to act very fast before the flop when the action gets to me. I gather up my cards and do the standard spread and bend up but not quite far enough where I can see my cards yet. Then the nano-second the action is on my\e I lift them up and make a decision very quickly. Unfortunately our game has a few in the player pool who slow down the game for no reason. This can really hurt the action and the vibe of the game which is otherwise very good.

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