K9s Heads up vs competent chip leader
$2/5 with UTG straddle on for the most part 10$ I think this is typically how the 2/5 tables always play at my room, so I guess I wont get to try straight up 2/5 once again.(3rd 2/5 session) I am the only one not straddling but it doesn't seem to bother anyone this time. Most stacks around 3.5-5k. Chip leader on Button with 7k. Hero around 2.3k in the BB. Action folds around to HJ to tosses in the 10$. Villain tosses in 40$ which is around the standard bet pretty much 30-40$. SB folds Hero calls folds around.
Chip leader has been very splashy for a couple hours but Hero bluffed him once two orbits ago for a pot around 700$ and showed down the air-ball bluff where my sizing was almost perfect. Since then he's been a little more pumping the breaks and not going as hard does not seem like the type of player to go on tilt def a grinder I would gather he has been there since early morning. Hero got to the table about 3 hours ago tight image showing only the goods on show down besides the bluff also not been limping much or playing too many hands, but putting a lot of thought into post flop play.
Hero Ks 9s ($2, 300 eff) BB
Villain (around $7, 000 eff actually unsure has some orange and purples 1k/500$ chips) Button
Flop Ah, Kc, 9d (pot $102)
Hero takes a moment to watch V before acting, V seems very interested in the hand and does not look very concerned at all with anything other then the cards on the table. Did not look at hero for some time and is counting chips and doing some calculations with his stack. Finally looks at hero does not meet eyes and looks away.
Hero finally x, Villain raises $150, Hero ?
( because of the sizing do I 3-bet here large and fold to any 4-bet or flat?)
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That's a board which is very good for him and he's entitled to bet that large. You're smoked a reasonable amount of the time, he can bluff big at this board a bit as well. What I'm not sure is how often you should be calling with a random Ax here. In any event I'm not sure there's much point in raising...the only hands you beat which will call are going to be a few of the stronger Aces. A call looks strong as well but I'd just go with that and see what happens, if he checks back turn you can happily go for value on the river.
Did I make a mistake not betting the flop and letting him continue to take the lead?
I'm folding or 3-betting K9s from the SB against a splashy BTN, especially when you're less than 250bb effective.
just a question are you a nit?
This is not a raise but a bet. So I'm guessing what you would call a re-raise is actually just a raise. It is bet -> raise (2bet) -> re-raise (3bet). Also, I think chipleaders only exist in tournaments.
Yes, I know I'm being annoying, but I do think knowing your terms will actually help you to be taken more seriously.
I would check/call here. I'm not in the habit of playing this deep though, and I never really feel comfortable when I am this deep against someone, so I'm often inclined to take the more passive approach, fwiw.
not annoying! I get the 2 bet 3 bet confused some times because some people say 3 bet is just a re raise where as others say its the 3rd bet.
Check call. Don’t call raises pre with crappy hands.
I snap fold this hand pre. As played, I guess you can call one time, but I'm playing very cautiously.
Don't show bluffs!!!
Normally don't but he did it to me a couple times with pride, I know I let my pride get the best of me back. However I think it also put him in his place to stop that bs with me.
As a general rule, I wouldn't show a bluff, unless I was determined to play tight after that, at least against that player. I might do it if the game was playing tight, to get people to loosen up, but not at a splashy table with most people straddling.
PRE - Why not raise with K9s? I would, especially if V has been splashy. Make it $160 or even $200.
FLOP - Even though we have 2P, the board favors V's range, and it's rainbow, so I think I'd just check-call, with plans to check-evaluate turn, and possibly lead river if the turn checks through.
In theory, he has all the 2P and set combos here, but if he's splashy, and possibly "out to get us" because we showed a bluff, he might barrel off with all his AX, and maybe even some KX combos, or maybe even some air, because the board is so good for his range.
His c-bet size is huge, like he just wants to take the pot down now. If he's bluffing, he's not calling a raise, and if he has the goods, all we're doing with a raise is torching.
I'd just flat call, and look to play some poker on later streets.
Spoiler
I end up flatting next card comes is a Kd. I check again pretty sure I made a bad decision calling even with 2p here and V makes it another 150$ Hero?
I am really assuming this is a value bet at this point that he didn't go larger obviously cant fold a boat, but does he really have AK?
Spoiler
I end up flatting next card comes is a Kd. I check again pretty sure I made a bad decision calling even with 2p here and V makes it another 150$ Hero
I am really assuming this is a value bet at this point that he didn't go larger obviously cant fold a boat, but does he really have AK
For the future, when you're doing your OP's, you don't put a space after the comma when you're typing numbers. It's $2,300, not $2, 300. Not trying to be pedantic, but that threw me for a second. I thought you only started $300 effective.
Also - c'mon, man, give us the pot size on every street so we don't have to maths.
So, the pot is $402 going to the turn, and V bets $150 again, same size he bet on the flop? That's odd, and usually a sign of weakness, but could be he's milking us with thick value. He's got 3 combos of AA and 3 of AK, and a bunch of other $hlt for bluffs and worse value.
I sort of want to raise this small bet, but it's hard to think what worse hands call. I'm not sure if AQ/AJ are calling. Maybe he calls with worse KX, but it's hard to think he'd bet so small with KX when the BDFD appears, and we could be in here with some Broadway draw combos.
I wonder if he's on some sort of draw, and might call a smallish raise, like $550-$600, which would leave about a PSB behind.
Yeah, I think I like that. Raise to $550-$600, targeting his KX, his good draws, and maybe some non-believing AX. Pray he's on a draw that comes in on the river, or puts us on a draw that doesn't come in, because we're jamming the river either way.
We lose value when he's bluffing and planning to barrel the river, but my hunch would be if we flat here, he shuts it down and checks back the river. I'd prefer to take the betting lead now, so we can jam river without it being so insanely face up.
