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You do realize Trump and Bannon had a falling out, Trump threw him out of his circle, and Bannon has no influence at all in the Presidency, or anywhere else in politics. He just does the rounds on social media for his own gain, and left wing media amplifies him in bad faith to go after Trump.

I know it is hard to tell, because the bad faith liberal media pretends they are still allied, so they can in bad faith take shots at Trump through Bannon's actions.

Maybe Bannon is just trolling. Maybe he is a Nazi scumbag. Either way, he is not allied with Trump or Elon in any way, and has no influence in govt. So feel free to ignore him. FWIW, Bannon is extremely critical of Elon, and more generally the "technocratic right" as he calls it. So in context I would definitely interpret these actions as trolling Elon.

The are at least 3 blatant examples from the last week. The point of Elon doing it was to normalize it so dfs like you can dutifully excuse it, normalizing it further.

Yes I'm aware of the falling out. I find it telling that both of them make the same gesture though, falling out or not. And I don't think a known alt right figure giving a nazi salute can be spun as mere trolling of another public figure who reposts lots of alt right stuff either.

Do you think Bannon is stupid or not self-aware? He is very smart, and very self aware.

That is exactly what you are supposed to think. He is just trolling Elon and intentionally giving left wing media bait to go after Trump in bad faith. His arm motions have no meaning apart from this.

Oh okay then. I guess I was being paranoid thinking that an alt right figure doing a Nazi salute was doing so simply cuz he's really a nazi at heart. But your explanation sounds much less convoluted so I guess you're right.

Maybe he is a Nazi at heart. But understand he has zero influence since Trump shoved him out; and at this point he is just a foil for left wing media to attack Trump in bad faith. And he is very aware of this, and perfectly fine with it.

There is enough real things to go after Trump and Elon about*, that IMO the left wing media is really doing a disservice with the bad faith attacks like this, as they just delegitimize themselves.

But it is just catnip to them. They really cant help themselves.

*For example, they are both arbitrarily firing people with no idea what they even do, much less having a plan to have the govt function without them.

Yeah, well I'm sorry if I'm not running around with my hair on fire like you guys. I just don't think it's that important.

And we have countless examples of the value of your "thoughts."

lol There's no doubt wtf it is dude.

I have a feeling we're going to be seeing lots more peculiar gestures in the coming months. Once the wingnuts see their leaders doing it openly--it will embolden them.

Yeah, I'm practising mine as we speak.

If Elon and Bannon appeared sporting swastika armbands that would be a major escalation of things. At this point it's either coincidence or they were trolling. If they are actually Nazis it will come out at some point and they will be dealt with. I'm not gonna do the neurotic liberal overly offended act. They know what triggers these folks. They are very easily manipulated. Maybe it is just fun to troll the libs. We've seen how easily they go for it every time.

There's not much practical difference in the humanity of people that supported killing 6 million jews and the people that think its ok to make jokes about or trivialize the killing of 6 million jews. Stop excusing literally either one of them.

Most of us don't really care Gorgo.

We've got better things to do than run around with our hair on fire because some stupid arm movement gets promoted as being newsworthy to the permanently outraged masses.

Literally nobody asked. And you don't speak for "most of us."

I'm not excusing them I'm simply giving my opinion on what I saw.

He makes a good point. There are a lot of people who are "permanently outraged". These people love to look for trouble. These people are way too easily offended.

Nothing bothers me anymore. If people want to be idiots that's on them. It has no effect on me.

So the german elections went almost identical to what the polls predicted, and we know all results in less than 24 hours, and they all vote with paper and pencil and distance voting is used a lot but for some reason they can count all the votes anyway immediatly (because a distance vote is only valid if it arrives while voting booths are open).

I would bet most politicians and people doing (and used to) to public speech know what they are doing and what signs means , or how they could be interpreted at least.
Now there are only a few explanations left:

1 they know the ambiguity behing the gesture and how people might interpret it, they still chose to do it.
1.1 they do it to convey they agree with the ideology represented by the gesture.
this is bad and everyone here I believe agrees with it.

1.2 they do it to troll.
this is bad , you don't want a representant or top level governement person trolling when he feels like it.
that is just stupid and probably worse than 1.1 on idiocy level.

2 they don't know what they are doing.
this is more than bad, you don't want ignorant and idiots in these positions.

I think most countries, while being afraid at the immediate horror and stupidity , are thinking there must be opportunities dealing with such idiots.
America you had a good run , now it's just time for the pillaging.

Last US election was pretty good the only state that couldn’t count ballots was California

Both regularly promote Nazism. Musk through his actions online by regularly boosting extremists, which likely makes him the biggest vector for Nazism in the world. Bannon through a long political career of promoting Nationalism to nationalist-adjacent conservatives. That is, when he isn't busy defrauding said conservatives and spending time in jail for it.

So they choose to speak like Nazis and carry themselves as Nazis. And that is all that matters.

A debate on how they got there, what they think or what it all means is just irrelevant book-keeping.

Eggs up to $14.99 for an eighteen pack.

I called a dry cleaners just now to find out their price to dry clean a men's shirt and they told me $8.

Hell yeah, and when they get the trains rolling into the new camps I might start thinking maybe this Nazi thing wasn't as totally overblown as I was told.

I dont know your living arrangements but you can very often find washer and dryers on FB markeplace for free. Or you can find like 5 of them near you under 50.