Qd7d UTG on a straddle
2/5 average stacks 1000 eff new table opened around 20 minutes ago no real reads.
V1 UTG+1 (1300$ eff) took down one hand against him seems like a tighter range player that likes to draw saw him against someone else suck out of them for a pretty decent pot. Did not see aggression from him at all until his hand was made on the river. Older late 40's Irish accent.
Table is all straddling for 10
Hero UTG Qd7d (1185$ eff)
UTG+1(V1) raise to 25$ HJ calls button calls sb calls.
Pot (105$)
Flop Qh, 7h, 2h
SB x, Hero stabs for 90$, UTG+1 (V1) calls after looking at the board for some time seeming to think about something, folds around
Turn 8c
pot ($285)
Hero stabs again unsure if V1 is on a draw or there already same bet. Figure if I get re-raised here I can simply fold and if he is on a heart draw and no other hearts fall I can make a chunky pot sized bet. If another heart falls I am pretty screwed. V1 calls
River 4h (465$)
hero x, V1 190$, Hero?
We hate this card obviously there isn't much to do here it's way to easy for him to have any heart after thinking it over Hero checks.
13 Replies
Fold preflop.
We're dominated a ton here and don't need to defend this. Would start with like Q8s
As played flop would just be checking there usually. All flushes are still out and we don't want to be building a pot here OOP when our hand can get massively devalued on heart turn.
If you do want to be then just go smaller. Our hand is pretty good, but we can't realistically get that much value from worse hands often, so we'd rather keep the pot small and see what runs out before putting much money in.
A played river easy fold imo
You didn't "stab" at the flop. You dropped a piano on it. I assume betting $30 would've gotten the same folds and kept the pot size more manageable.
Also, the PF call is too loose unless you have tablemates who are stack-off monkeys and/or you're playing in an invite-game where you need to player looser.
HAHA dropped a piano on it... yes something like that most pots from the get were pretty large regardless table was playing pretty aggro for me
Pre flop is a fold, which I'm sure you know. Betting flop is fine, but could/should be smaller. Once he calls, I slow down. You "stabbed" $90 on the turn? I'd rather check. River is a fold.
Def preflop is almost always a fold thought id see cheap since already invested and EV wasn't so bad to call.
Grunch:
If there are 5 players going to the flop, wouldn't the pot be $125, not $105?
PRE - I'd be playing raise or fold here, with a hand that doesn't play well multi-way.
If we think the PFR is playing tight, it's an easy fold. If we think he's occasionally opening wide, we could put in a big raise, like making it $200. But mostly I'd just fold and move on.
FLOP - I don't understand donking large on a monotone flop five ways.
We'd get more info if we check. Would rather go for a check-call, or occasionally even a check-raise if the PFR and HJ check and the BTN stabs small. But mostly I'd just check with plans to call a small bet, and see what develops. If we bet, we're going to be lost on a lot most turns and rivers.
TURN - Just check now. We're just hoping to get to showdown.
RIVER - Obviously a terrible card. Just check-fold.
Spoiler
Hero folded to V's raise and V shows 5c 5h I really think I should have fired one more round...
Fold preflop. Check flop, as played check turn. You can maybe x/c with this hand. Not good to lead big.
Villain with 55 is a total fish.
If V is opening 55 pre, first to act, and calling an almost pot sized donk on the flop, and betting the river, he's not tight. He's LAG.
I'd be curious to know if he thought he was betting the river for value or as a bluff. I imagine if we bet again, he'd call, but if we check-raised, he'd turbo-muck.
I'd also be curious if he called flop with the intention of stealing the pot with a bluff if you checked turn or river.
Luck o' the Irish, indeed.
Didn't say he was a tight player but his range is pretty straight up broad way suited connectors some times one gappers suited and all pairs. He is a total donk though I ran into him again different hand pre flop with AK off it was 65$ from UTG+1 with 3 callers and I'm UTG boost it to 240$ he was the only one that called 2s 6s Qh board I completely miss and I punt 890$ he calls me on a spade draw with 8s7s and hits on the river. I know it was a punt, but why call pre and post.
