67s triple barrel bluff vs reg in a 3-bet pot
5/5
~$800 effective
BB – a tricky reg, not playing straightforward.
Hero(CO) 6♦7♦ raises to $20, BB 3bets to $90, Hero calls
Flop($185) 5♦ 5♥ 2♦
BB checks, Hero bets $60, BB calls
Turn($305) J♥
BB checks, Hero bets $140, BB calls
River($585) 4♥
BB checks, Hero jams for $500
Is this line legit? If not, what mistake was made?
I don’t see how he could be capped. He could literally have everything in his range with this line, which is why this line really concerns me.
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I would fold pre to the 3bet, but that's just me. If you're willing to play lighter and gamble, it's up to you. I prefer to be deeper though.
I would hate to get c/r'd otf vs a tricky villain, so I'd jus check it back (esp since he 3bet pre).
When he checks and with the 3rd heart, I think it was a good bluff.
His line looks like an overpair (hopefully not jacks ofc) or maybe Axdd or KQdd.
It’s ambitious. I don’t think you can rep a lot of value that plays the hand this way. Maybe exactly JJ. V as described could play AA/KK/AJ this way and also can credibly have a heart flush.
Once you get to the river however, you have 7-high with the betting lead and it would suck to showdown against 88, A-high or K-high.
I think it is mostly on the punty side. Calling the large 3-bet to play HU with a small SC even IP is suspect.
So, I shouldn't even be at this river. But what's the problem with the preflop play? What hands do you call with here? AQ+, T9s+?
Anything under a $1k stack is basically considered a short stack, and you must play tight, focusing only on high cards?
I would fold pre to the 3bet, but that's just me. If you're willing to play lighter and gamble, it's up to you. I prefer to be deeper though. I would hate to get c/r'd otf vs a tricky villain, so I'd jus check it back (esp since he 3bet pre). When he checks and with the 3rd heart, I think it was a good bluff. His line looks like an overpair (hopefully not jacks ofc) or maybe Ax
V will likely (and should) call river with an overpair.
So, I shouldn't even be at this river. But what's the problem with the preflop play? What hands do you call with here? AQ+, T9s+?
Anything under a $1k stack is basically considered a short stack, and you must play tight, focusing only on high cards?
It’s a large 3-bet (from a position least likely to 3-bet). You have an SPR of 4 on the flop with a hand that mostly whiffs or makes weak one pair hands. Or makes weak draws with RIO.
So, I shouldn't even be at this river. But what's the problem with the preflop play? What hands do you call with here? AQ+, T9s+?
Anything under a $1k stack is basically considered a short stack, and you must play tight, focusing only on high cards?
I think the call with 76s is fine, especially given "tricky reg", the fact that this is not an overly large 3-bet from the blinds, and you being IP.
I don't mind the raise pf, but as soon as you are 3bet, these cards should go in the muck.
As played, your bet size says you don't have a made hand. You actually gave the villain pot odds to call with a draw on the flop. I'd check behind on the flop. I would bet a bit less on the river. The villain likely missed and will fold.
When he 3!s OOP and checks this flop, it looks like he has an overpair. If he had AK/AQ or some bluff, he might keep the lead to try to take it down. Then when he calls down the flop and turn, it is clear he has some value.
I don't know if you should bet the flop. I don't think he is ever 3-betting and then check/folding to 1/3 pot. On the river, are you representing JJ, x5, or the backdoor flush? I don't think he is folding much that he gets here with.
So I don't think this is a good situation for a 3-barrel bluff.
You don't have to bet all bad draws on the flop.
You aren't supposed to blast off river with missed flush draws, in general.
WTF is your value range on the river? Are you even shoving AJ, or is it just BD flushes and 5x+? Do you ever have QQ or esp. KK?
If I thought V was light enough to not have an overpair a lot (which it kind looks like he would here) then maybe bet 150 again just to fold out better no pair hands. We could also do that with 99+, with the same reads. Ofc. he can always start bluff shoving then.
Fold pre. to the giant 3bet is obvious.
After that, I put a lot less in checking either flop or turn.
Flop size feels weird. If we had 5x or 22 would we pick this size? It does make it easier to be betting 99, but half pot is probably fine too and that size sets up better turn dynamics on good cards (although there aren't many, such is the life of bad draws).
If I bet flop and turn was 4♥ I bet again, but it'd be bigger ... so I guess it'd probably be all in.
idk man. u dont really rep much and he has an overpair alot. i see ur cards as effectively neutral in a spot hes going to overcall
Preflop is debatable - think it's more of a function of how wide he 3bets. If he 3bs wide then I would call, if he's tighter I would fold. I think postflop the only decision is the river - flop/turn seem standard. I can't imagine he's x/c the flop with an overpair, but who knows. Think on the river I go for it - not the best card for us but not the worst with hearts getting there.
if I was V I would call this river bet with any pocket pair above a 77's and maybe even big Ax I think this really screams bluff or missed draws.
If I was a guessing man V has 10's, J's or Q's
nope
Spoiler
AA
I was going to say AA. He 3! big, maybe didn't want pps to draw cheaply. Then he check/called, indicated he had something and didn't need to protect it.
In my game this is 3bet size is pretty standard. If V isn’t just 3betting premiums then I for sure call here with hopes of outplaying post flop in position
Go bigger on the flop
Turn is a relative brick. Can definitely go for a bigger size as well.
I’m giving up on this river after he calls turn
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When he 3!s and check/calls this board, it looks like an overpair, likely a high one. It is a disconnected board. It isn't that likely you have a 5, although you actually had a 6 and a 7. He is going to keep the lead on this board a lot for value or as a bluff. What is he playing this way besides JJ+? So not sure it is good for semibluffing the turn and certainly not the river. You are looking that you have a draw or busted draw 7-high, but not enough what he has, which is sort of face up.
Also, he probably is doing this with AK/AQ preflop, but a lot of people at mid stakes don't have bluffs against an ep raiser from the BB. Maybe he does with the read of tricky reg.
