QQ preflop call or shove?

Although I can't get the solver to allow for a BTN overcall preflop after a raise and two callers, even with the resulting smaller stack sizes the solver suggests shoving 2/3, calling 1/3 and folding almost never. I think that with even more of both stacks already in the pot this becomes an easy shove, especially if Villain is a pro.

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Is V’s min raise a standard 4 bet given his stack and the situation?

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if H is known to V than V should be known to H as well.

are you ever squeezing here as a bluff that V would know about?

is V ever 4betting here as a bluff? what hands have you seen V 4 bet IP before? what hands have you seen V call 3 bets IP before?

having history with V and understanding the dynamic is what allows you to make better decisions which allow you to make the best EV play, which sometimes is making a very exploitable fold. being able to make a correct fold here is part of what makes certain players crushers.

you're only going to get answers that are in a vacuum from people who have no info about you or V because you only provided "H is known to V, probably has TAG image." which really isn't much of any info. with the info you provided you might as well just throw the hand into a solver and not even bother mentioning that you have history with V.

with that being said - in my experience min 4 bets/5 bets are basically always the nuts because low steaks Vs doesn't want their opponent to fold when they have AA. you 3bet to $150 off a $550 stack, if V just ripped it as a 4bet, its not really an overplay with most 4betting hands but they only min clicked it - why would they do that? (this is why all the prefaced info matters). sitting at my computer with the info provided, i think it's a fold. if i'm in game, i'm sure i've had similar situations where i ripped it and was shown a better hand most of the time.

With his thinking you are a TAG, it's hard to imagine he's 4betting w/o a premium with only $400 behind. I think at best for us he has AK. You know him better than we do, though.

I think your options are fold or shove, but you could call and shove any flop w/o an A or K as a third option 😉

The last time I 3-bet V, I had A5s. He didn't see the hand, but he might suspect that I have 3-bet and 4-bet bluffs.

He for sure has 4-bet bluffs. He doesn't show hands unless he has to, but he called a 3-bet from me IP with A5s before and then shoved his flush draw when I bet the flop with top set with QQ.

In this hand, I should have realized that a min-raise by him in this position is nutted as hell. Still not sure I would have been able to fold.

That's my point. He has $400 left -- he's not doing this as a bluff.

If he for sure has 4bet bluffs, with these stacks I would just jam. I would think he might raise aces more to get stacks in rather than CIB anyway (we started the hand with 80 bb's eff).

He has 4-bet bluffs for sure (see other hand history where he called my 4-bet with A5s), but would he min-raise as a 4-bet bluff? Maybe?
I talked to him today about the hand. I said I should have folded my QQ to his min-raise since it looked so nutted. He said he would have min-clicked with AK as well. Who knows if he is telling the truth.

fwiw, i tell people all the time that i would do things with other hand combos that i certainly wouldn't do so they play worse against me in the future - but the key to this lie is that there are times i would do what i said, just not to that player (or player type).

for example - a nit opens pre bigger than their normal open and i have AA. i'm 3 betting them huge because i know they have top of range and they're not folding. i want to pile as much money into the pot before bad cards come out that give them a reason to fold. when the hand resolves if they're beating themselves up about it ("i should have known you had AA there") i will tell them i would play the same with hands like QQ or AK, though i never would do that against that specific person. this works out great because then they remember and will look for it and they'll see me do it against the big fish in the game but they wont make the connection that im playing the fish way differently than i'm playing them.

i have no idea if V would minraise AK here, but i don't see the point in it because they should never be folding to a 5 bet because of stack depth. stacks are only $550 effective. if they 4 bet and you jam and they fold after putting in ~50% of their stack you are printing money against them by jamming QQ/AK everytime. and if they call it off why not just jam and attempt to push your equity off a chop when you also have AK or a flip when you have QQ? it just doesn't logically make sense to min click with AK at these stack depths, imo.

but i'm not a pro, so maybe i'm missing something.

So, you called or shoved? He had AA/KK?

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