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A lot of $ can be personal too, you know.
we'll see what darnold commands, its a unique situation
unless he straight balls out playoffs i dont really see him having a ton of suitors for major dollars and vikes can probably get a fair deal
Darnold is the best available QB between both FA and the draft, and it might not be close.
If he stays with the Vikings, it’ll probably be at a slight discount, in both money and years. If he goes elsewhere, he’s getting PAID.
Agree with liga on the min, and I think it’s probably even higher than that.
Haha, he still got $10 mil per, so it’s not like he’s doing it for free.
Maybe UNC will give him a share of the school? I wonder what that's worth, probably not so much.
Darnold is the best available QB between both FA and the draft, and it might not be close.
If he stays with the Vikings, it’ll probably be at a slight discount, in both money and years. If he goes elsewhere, he’s getting PAID.
Agree with liga on the min, and I think it’s probably even higher than that.
Yeah, the timing for Darnold this year worked out great. I still think he can work a deal with the Vikings. I seriously doubt he wants a replay of his first 3 years with some crap team for an extra few $M a year.
Baker was basically in the same situation last season with TB and they got the deal done.
Endowment sure, but it will be more like Belichick Hall or Bill Belichick Field or some other feel good thing.
FYI UNC endowment is about $5B. Raiders franchise is probably a bit less than half that. But whatever Mark says, Bill gets. Try working out that kind of deal with the Trustees at UNC.
Baker was basically in the same situation last season with TB and they got the deal done.
Baker didn't have a 1st round QB on a rookie contract taking a redshirt waiting in the wings tho
I have no knowledge of what the Vikings will do but I can absolutely see them rolling with McCarthy and Dimes and putting their money into other positions instead of re-signing Darnold. I can also see them treating McCarthy as a sunk cost or luxury item and signing Darnold given that he's been good (other than last Sunday) and he vibes with KOC.
Baker didn't have a 1st round QB on a rookie contract taking a redshirt waiting in the wings thoI have no knowledge of what the Vikings will do but I can absolutely see them rolling with McCarthy and Dimes and putting their money into other positions instead of re-signing Darnold. I can also see them treating McCarthy as a sunk cost or luxury item and signing Darnold given tha
True, but that is countered with a super strong QB draft last year vs. almost nil this year.
Letting Darnold go and putting trust in McCarthy will be a big risk IMO. I guess you could beef up at RB/OL or DL, which they are not particularly strong at. But hard to improve on their wideouts/TE. But those wideouts will only be as good as the QB delivering the throws, and I have not seen a lot to conclude McCarthy is a plug and play.
Endowment sure, but it will be more like Belichick Hall or Bill Belichick Field or some other feel good thing.
FYI UNC endowment is about $5B. Raiders franchise is probably a bit less than half that. But whatever Mark says, Bill gets. Try working out that kind of deal with the Trustees at UNC.
That’s basically the deal he has. $10 mil for assistants, 4x prior NIL, bringing in a bunch of his own coaches, etc. UNC is all in on this working out.
I’m not saying his financial upside wouldn’t be higher in the NFL, but he’s already near the top of the college landscape, without ever having coached a college game.
Baker didn't have a 1st round QB on a rookie contract taking a redshirt waiting in the wings thoI have no knowledge of what the Vikings will do but I can absolutely see them rolling with McCarthy and Dimes and putting their money into other positions instead of re-signing Darnold. I can also see them treating McCarthy as a sunk cost or luxury item and signing Darnold given tha
I think they'd trade McCarthy if they signed Darnold on a multi year
IMO, so long as they still believe in McCarthy's long term development and don't therefore want to sign Darnold to a multi year extension, this Darnold situation is exactly what the franchise tag should be used for. 1 more year to ensure the championship window (if they think this) stays open and then a nice transition to the younger guy
Based on market for McCarthy (which is probably pretty high), but dealing him for a 1st and 2nd or something like that (I'm guessing on market value) should put the Vikings in good shape for 2025.
Giants/Titans should be willing to bid up, as they have basically nothing at QB.
Yeah, LA kinda falling apart right now
Darnold's getting franchised imo, then maybe they do the Washington/Kirk Cousins dance and he gets a mega deal somewhere.
How much is franchise tag $? If MIN can work a bargain 3 yr deal would that not be better?
Cap is going up every year, seems to me tying up future money now is the best move.
Maybe Darnold is ok with getting tagged but I doubt it.
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How much is franchise tag $? If MIN can work a bargain 3 yr deal would that not be better?
Cap is going up every year, seems to me tying up future money now is the best move.
Maybe Darnold is ok with getting tagged but I doubt it.
Way better to tag him, and make him play one more year if that's an option. If this season wasn't a facade, then I'm sure they won't mind the few extra million it'll cost them to sign him after next season.
Don't think his feelings should play a part in the decision.
Let's say it costs Vikings $50M to tag Darnold. Assuming he plays 2025 same as this year, he likely signs a mega deal with somebody else. If he flops, you are either forced to keep McCarthy as a fallback (thus reducing your chances for a successful 2025), or be empty handed at QB.
Signing him to a 3 yr/$100M deal locks Darnold up with 2025 money, and frees up $17M of cap money for FA signups in 2025. That, plus trading McCarthy gives you more draft equity in 2025 for a greater chance of success. If Darnold plays well in 2025 its win/win. If he flops you are not in much worse shape than tagging him, as 2026 cap will be higher than 2025, and Vikings net loss is about $20M (assuming a $70M cap hit for 2025+2026).
Basically, tagging Darnold almost makes it a necessity to keep McCarthy, thus negating any value he might add for 2025. That, for a savings af about $20M which only materializes if Darnold flops.
This changes if Vikings can tag Darnold again in 2026. But that will be even more $ and I would think Vikings would be comfortable signing him to a multi year deal then.
You all know the classic saying:
No matter how rich you are, everybody’s got a price.
Although this reminds me of the former Nets owner Prokhorov wanting to hire Coach K. He literally presented a blank check and said fill in whatever number you want to coach the Nets.
Coach K declined, saying he was more than happy where he was, didn’t want to move his family, etc. and no amount of money would change his mind.
Maybe he didn’t like the idea of working for a Russian Oligarch or perhaps he was wary of being exposed as an inept coach in the NBA.
Way better to tag him, and make him play one more year if that's an option. If this season wasn't a facade, then I'm sure they won't mind the few extra million it'll cost them to sign him after next season.
Don't think his feelings should play a part in the decision.
I agree. It’s nothing personal or with feelings —- strictly business. And he should understand that.
Yeah, I actually think Darnold would prefer getting tagged.
I'm looking at it from Vikings future win equity position.
How much is franchise tag $? If MIN can work a bargain 3 yr deal would that not be better?
Cap is going up every year, seems to me tying up future money now is the best move.
Maybe Darnold is ok with getting tagged but I doubt it.
it's about $40m. I think the tag is good if they really believe in McCarthy. If they don't or are super excited by Darnold then they do a LT deal and trade McCarthy. I don't think they will do LT deal and keep McCarthy
Agree 100%
