Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

I start this with some pictures:

nl2 -$8792.18 -82 buy ins below EV

nl5 (notice that pt4 shows party poker nl5 as nl4)

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18 March 2019 at 01:30 PM
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by HooLeeSheet

holy ****ing **** zomg i can't believe I just found this thread.story goes back to fall 2010, when my 21 yr old me got a 50$ bankroll from pokerstrategy; deposited that money on partypoker and started playing 2nl like a true nit.Sadly lost my old HM database from that time, but I am 99% positive that a good chunk from the money I won to move up from the micros came indeed from

Ironic, even in today game you would win on nl2 and on nl10 while playing with the beginner strategy from pokerstrategy.com. And then there are people like OP who can lose 150bb/100 and more while playing microstakes


by CheeseburgerLover

Ironic, even in today game you would win on nl2 and on nl10 while playing with the beginner strategy from pokerstrategy.com

I can tell you won't. When you play even 1 month those stakes you will notice you won't. That strategy is full based on Harringtons books where you bet bet bet overpair without looking the board. Everytime you bet on nowadays micros on river with overpair you need to ask yourself if I bet with bluff would they fold. If answer is no and you 3 time barrel they show you 2 pair+ everytime.


And in fact Pokerstragy.com is just pyramid hoax and because of that blocked in many countries. They came to industry with short stack strategy that was based on just to make bigger stacks right odds to call. So that strategy made you with shorter stack flipping with bigger stacks who just made easy calls against you. Main goal was to make huge rake income to sites who did pay very well to PS. They flew people from a certain country to Gibraltar where they had full board with hotels and meals covered. I also have a screenshot as evidence showing that the PS representatives of a certain country were offered the opportunity to visit paid women for free. That's not poker, that's not poker at all.


by Paisting

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Paisting how about a year to date graph ?


by Paisting

And in fact Pokerstragy.com is just pyramid hoax and because of that blocked in many countries. They came to industry with short stack strategy that was based on just to make bigger stacks right odds to call. So that strategy made you with shorter stack flipping with bigger stacks who just made easy calls against you. Main goal was to make huge rake income to sites who did pay

in other words, you'd rather spend an evening punting away 40 buy ins at 2nl than 'visit paid women for free' ?


I wish I had the discipline of Paistings to simply ignore posts he doesn't like.


  • to experience 25–35 suckouts every single month.
  • I'm at least in the top three globally in terms of volume. .

by legionrainfall

Your answer is above.
It's called "expected value"

Let's say there is a suckout in 1 in 100 hands.
If you play 3500 hands, you should expect 35 suckouts

Adjust the numbers as needed, but the concept does not change.

Happy to have solved this mystery for you!

Why is this thread still open?
Respond to this or lock this idiotic thread of stupidity.

by OFA

I wish I had the discipline of Paistings to simply ignore posts he doesn't like.

See above


by legionrainfall

  • to experience 25–35 suckouts every single month.
  • I'm at least in the top three globally in terms of volume. .

Why is this thread still open?
Respond to this or lock this idiotic thread of stupidity.

See above

Sorry but your comment seems like trolling. Maybe you don’t understand game and rng very well.

What you describe is that situation that occurs with rigged rng. The more you play the more you lose to suckouts. So more hands means massive under ev running.

That’s not poker my friend. That is manipulation. If there’s suckout long run needs to compensate that. Not making it worse.


Paisting your insight has helped millions from getting scammed by the big corporate poker companies

Paisting, in our minds and in our hearts, <3


Dont think suckouts are your Problem.
Its the high rake Environment.


by Paisting

What you describe is that situation that occurs with rigged rng. The more you play the more you lose to suckouts. So more hands means massive under ev running.

But you barely run under EV. Only a tiny fraction of your losses come from running badly. Even if you are under EV lifetime the EV difference probably represents less than 10% of your total losses.

Like at one point towards the end of last month you were down 70 buy ins but still running slightly above EV.


Paisting u just suck mate. Don't know if you're trolling or you gaslighted youself into believing your own lies.


by Paisting

Sorry but your comment seems like trolling. Maybe you don’t understand game and rng very well. What you describe is that situation that occurs with rigged rng. The more you play the more you lose to suckouts. So more hands means massive under ev running.That’s not poker my friend. That is manipulation. If there’s suckout long run needs to compensate that. Not making it worse

You do not understand basic probability.
Poker is not for you.


by Hanspeter12

Dont think suckouts are your Problem.
Its the high rake Environment.

He and his opponents are playing GTO ranges but rake is killing them.


Fascinating how Paisting still doesn't understand what EV is.


by heat555

He and his opponents are playing GTO ranges but rake is killing them.

I've never played GTO and never will. In fact if you look those hands where I get it in with massive equity everything has started when opponents are using too small bet sizes on situations where their never should. It's just hilariously easy to exploit them by betting big when thay bet small. Only site keeps them alive.


Paisting was using 20x pot overbet shoves before it was cool


by MaigelColt

Paisting u just suck mate. Don't know if you're trolling or you gaslighted youself into believing your own lies.

Autism


by Paisting

I've never played GTO and never will. In fact if you look those hands where I get it in with massive equity everything has started when opponents are using too small bet sizes on situations where their never should. It's just hilariously easy to exploit them by betting big when thay bet small. Only site keeps them alive.

In a month like this do you buy xmas presents when the welfare arrives before you start "working" or you gamble it all from day 1?


Those days nobody makes money. So who cares about losses when everyone is loosing ......


by TripleBerryJam

Paisting was using 20x pot overbet shoves before it was cool

That’s true. And in fact it’s not so common even nowadays. If you overbet small oop to blank turn on those games I play you put yourself to play guessing game on river. GTO size made you to be exploitable. These donkeys just don’t understand that.


Paisting what do you mean by paid women?


by Hanspeter12

Those days nobody makes money. So who cares about losses when everyone is loosing ......

If you look those whales against me on those hands i've posted you see that the pool is worst than ever on online poker history. When everyone is losing because site is using manipulated rng everyone should care about that.


by Paisting

When everyone is losing because site is using manipulated rng...

What sites have fair RNG?


by DeeKayBee

What sites have fair RNG?

That's really good question. I don't have so much database any else sites than party and 888. But any sites that are saying eCOGRA is testing their poker rng regularly should be taking cautiously. They have admit clearly to me and also Gambling Commission said that too they are not.

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