Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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Israel provides bomb shelters to its citizens. They sound sirens when rockets are heading towards them. They intercept rockets with iron dome technology
Hamas uses its citizens as shields. No bomb shelters. Have tunnels for terrorists but not for civilians
Hamas has shot many rockets at civilians.
Umad that Israel protects its citizens?
That's rhetorical
If hamas gave a **** about its people many more would be alive
But they do not
They want to destroy a country. If they don't want their citizens to die then they should probably give up on that goal.
They want to destroy a country. If they don't want their citizens to die then they should probably give up on that goal.
They obviously want their citizens to die
Then they release unverified death numbers but REFUSE to differentiate between civilians and soldiers
And people in this thread believe that all gazans are civilians and all Israelis are military
You're wasting your breath bro
Trump and Pompeo sanctioned the ICC in 2020 because of corruption
They will sanction that corrupt organization again
ICC is a joke
I asume this isn't trolling either but ...
They want to destroy a country. If they don't want their citizens to die then they should probably give up on that goal.
This is quite literally the definition of terrorism. Killing civilians to pursue political goals.
Starting wars, refusing to end them when losing, and being completely uninterested in protecting your own citizens is not the moral win you seem to think it is. It is a sign of complete moral depravity; which is a common theme in every faction you support.
Islamism las practiced by IRI and its proxies is a completely morally deprived ideology. An epistemological wasteland. It is just straight loserville.
They refuse to end a war and accept permanent Israeli theft of their own land to form an even more oppressive apartheid state in Lebanon and Gaza. why would anyone agree to that?
They refuse to end a war and accept permanent Israeli theft of their own land to form an even more oppressive apartheid state in Lebanon and Gaza. why would anyone agree to that?
Cope harder. They are right wing, authoritarian, theocratic, zero sum lizard brain tribalism losers with a loser ideology that have been losing land in their losing Jihad to destroy Israel for 80 years. And as long as they embrace Islamism and are completely indifferent to the suffering they cause, especially to their own people, they will continue to lose, because it is a loser ideology.
Islamism is loserville.
Id say they havent lost until they give up the fight and agree to live in slavery as the Western Supremacists in USA Europe and Israel desire.
The ICC chief prosecutor was advised to go ahead with the arrest warrant request by Theodor Meron, 94-year-old Jewish Holocaust survivor and ex-Israeli diplomat.
Sounds like a very antisemitic person.
They refuse to end a war and accept permanent Israeli theft of their own land to form an even more oppressive apartheid state in Lebanon and Gaza. why would anyone agree to that?
Don't you think this is gonna happen whether they continue the fight or not? Wouldn't it be better to accept inevitable defeat and save many lives? Have you noticed that conditions have only gotten worse throughout the years? I get keeping up the fight if you are making progress. According to you and your ilk the "Palestinians" are being genocided. It sounds like they are losing badly. The terrorism is not working. Israel probably will take more land just like they have done the other times they were attacked. I don't blame them.
The ICC chief prosecutor was advised to go ahead with the arrest warrant request by Theodor Meron, 94-year-old Jewish Holocaust survivor and ex-Israeli diplomat.
Sounds like a very antisemitic person.
I'm sure the old guy has all of his faculties to be making recommendations like this. Did they consult with 100 year old Jimmy Carter as well?
I'm pretty sure this particular 94 year old has more mental faculties than his critics, including posters previously banned for celebrating the killing of an antifa protestor in Charlottesville.
Don't you think this is gonna happen whether they continue the fight or not? Wouldn't it be better to accept inevitable defeat and save many lives? Have you noticed that conditions have only gotten worse throughout the years? I get keeping up the fight if you are making progress. According to you and your ilk the "Palestinians" are being genocided. It sounds like they are losi
well they havent taken any territory in Lebanon yet so it seems pretty dumb to give up your freedom without making the invaders earn it.
Feel free to head over to Amensty International’s website and do some research on all the laws that Israel has put in place since it’s inception to quite literally subjugate it’s non-Jewish residents, before making such ridiculous comments and thereby embarrassing yourself. Oh, sorry I forgot that Amnesty International, a non-government organization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_...
In 2010 Frank Johansson, the chairman of Amnesty International-Finland called Israel a nilkkimaa, a derogatory term variously translated as "scum state", "creep state" or "punk state".[48][49] Johansson stood by his statement, saying that it was based on Israel's "repeated flouting of international law", and his own personal experiences with Israelis. When asked by a journalist if any other country on earth that could be described in these terms, he said that he could not think of any, although some individual "Russian officials" could be so described.[49] According to Israeli professor Gerald M. Steinberg of NGO Monitor, a pro Israel campaign group: "Amnesty International has promoted an intense anti-Israel ideology, resulting in statements like these."[4
Hmmm...
In November 2012, Amnesty UK began a disciplinary process against staffer Kristyan Benedict, Amnesty UK campaigns manager, because of a posting on his Twitter account, said to be anti-semitic, regarding three Jewish members of parliament and Operation Pillar of Defense where he wrote: "Louise Ellman, Robert Halfon and Luciana Berger walk into a bar ... each orders a round of B52s ... #Gaza"
Hmmmm with a raised eyebrow...
n November 2016, Amnesty International conducted a second internal investigation of Benedict for comparing Israel to the Islamic state
I'm starting to suspect that Amnesty International may be just a teensy bit biased here, so maybe their criticism should be viewed within this somewhat biased context.
ofc anyone who values and upholds human rights thinks that about the Israeli state. it stands for the opposite of human rights.
Or maybe, just maybe, their entire existence is dedicated to looking at abuses of human rights with an impartial view, which then causes them to call out those who abuse said human rights. But no, you’re probably right. Hamas!!
Ah c'mon now how can they be impartial if they're biased? That just wouldn't make sense as it would be contradictory or something.
Who was compared to ISIS by whom?
I do know that ISIS is an ally to Israel.
Bruv..
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
So apt comparison, yay or nay vic?
I tried to make it FVCKANYCOUNTRYWHOSENTIREIDENTITYISBASEDONRELIGIONANDSUBJEGATINGTHOSEWHOOPPPSESAIDRELIGION but that was too long
That does come across as a bit of a mouthful, no argument there. Nearly but not quite as long as it's disingenuous.
Btw... I've a funny feeling you won;t be around for much longer, so nice knowing you in advance. 😉
Bruv..
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
So apt comparison, yay or nay vic
Oh I didn't see that bc I was scanning for ISIS and he said Islamic state. But I dunno, it's not a comparison that I would make but I am willing to hear the guy out.
