KK in position 1-3

You are getting 4-1 direct odds to improve. You can't fold unless the dealer fumbles the stub and there's no K's T's or 6's remaining in the deck.

The player to your direct right limp-called PF, and just overcalled the sb's push with you still left to act. Consequently, I can't believe KK is good here anywhere close to 15% of the time. In fact. I'm assuming UTG+2 had the nut flush.

This is a "hate myself" decision, the way we got here. You're going to hate yourself for calling and seeing that you're beat. You're going to hate yourself for folding and seeing that you should have folded turn (not saying I think you should have, but that's how you're going to feel).

There's always some chance at 1/3 that both have worse, but I don't know if it happens 1 in 8 times.

Don't beat yourself up. You raised pre with the best hand, got two callers, and got unlucky with the flop. I don't think you could have done very much too differently here, to arrive at a different result.

MAYBE if you check back the turn, you can get away from your hand on the river, but even in that scenario, it would be hard, specifically because our check-back looks weak and is likely to induce bluffs, or even value bets from worse hands.

The more posts I read in these types of hands, the more I’m convinced the best line with the nfd vs good players is to call flop and raise turn.

Also, this is usually a flush. Flush draws prefer to raise flop with more equity.

I'm confused. Are you saying the NFD should be raised on the flop, or should wait until the turn? Or is it dependent on the skill of our opponents?

The population, if choosing to raise, raises on the flop. So against good players we should confuse them by raising on the turn.

That makes more sense, thanks. And I think I agree. At least speaking for myself, turn raises seem to be harder to figure out than flop raises are.

I just don't see how we are ever good here, but I'm pretty sure I never find the fold live in real time.

BTW - you haven't mentioned 2 villain's effective stack sizes here or is the same as yours? Because if they are much larger than yours, it makes it even more likely they have the flush.

They were larger than mine.

I think I can give the reveal, given the pot odds I made the call knowing I’m almost certainly not good.

Sb: had a set of flopped 6s.

Utg+2: had 9 3 of spades for the flopped flush.

Not that I think low flushes are always folding if we jam turn, but if there's a non zero percent chance of folding out a weak flush, and we're never folding, that's why I prefer to just jam.

You're gonna want to lay down in traffic if you flat call, the river rolls off another spade, and V had some offsuit hand that would have folded to your jam.

I don’t think I had any real fold equity with utg+2, I believed that he had already likely hit the flush with the check raise on the turn. The issue with shoving is that I might have pushed the sb out of the hand doing that, I wanted him to put the money in just in case I hit the boat on the river.