4/8 JTs turn raise with big draw?
8 handed, relatively LP table
2 limps to me in MP, I have JT♦, I raise, fold ,BTN call, SB call, Taggish asian lady BB 3!, 1 calls 1 fold to me, I call, call, call. 6 way flop 9.5 BB 19 bb
Flop is A93 with one ♦
SB checks, BB bets, call, I have a BDFD and BDSD and getting 21:1 call. BTN and SB fold. 3 way to the turn, 12.5 BB
Turn is the 8♦. Now have the FD and OESD.
BB bets, call, I raise.
8 Replies
Are you raising for value or as a bluff?
I don’t like it one bit. You don’t rep anything, BB has a super strong range, and you’re just charging yourself an extra 1-2 bets to draw. There’s a good chance you get to raise the river if you get there so I’d much rather just call and see what happens.
I don’t like it one bit. You don’t rep anything, BB has a super strong range, and you’re just charging yourself an extra 1-2 bets to draw. There’s a good chance you get to raise the river if you get there so I’d much rather just call and see what happens.
my RT decisions still suck sometimes.
Don't beat yourself up. I also don't want to suggest that semibluffing the turn with a big draw is always a bad idea. It's just tough when you can't credibly represent a made hand and your opponent's range is super strong.
8 handed, relatively LP table2 limps to me in MP, I have JT♦, I raise, fold ,BTN call, SB call, Taggish asian lady BB 3!, 1 calls 1 fold to me, I call, call, call. 6 way flop 9.5 BB 19 bbFlop is A93 with one ♦ SB checks, BB bets, call, I have a BDFD and BDSD and getting 21:1 call. BTN and SB fold. 3 way to the turn, 12.5 BBTurn is the 8♦. Now have the FD and OESD. BB bets,
If you think they will bet/fold TT-KK on the turn then I think it’s close to fine, although it’s complicated by the in between player and you closing the action.
I lean towards just call based on gen pop tendencies. Most people won’t continue betting with TT-Kk in this situation because it’s suicidal. Both of you can credibly still have an ace or better due to how dry the flop is, so it’s not a very comfortable spot for them.
I’m also thinking that the in between player can have a weak ace and you might not get through them even if you get through the bb, so that’s why I lean towards not raising.
Preflop and flop completely standard.
You are more than a 2 ton1 dog to get there and only getting 2 bets in if they both call, so it’s not he right value price. Plus one of them could raise. I don’t do it if I don’t think I have any fold equity
2 limps to me in MP, I have JT, I raise
Why raise here? Limp along. Raising here maybe correct at 20/40 but not at a 4/8 table. Nightmare happens when it folds around to BB who 3bets other two limpers fold and ur HU. Now the rake comes into play as well as being in a position where you have to call down light. You want to be in an unraised family pot with hand.
