The costs of trans visibility

The costs of trans visibility

Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....

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30 June 2023 at 04:48 PM
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by rickroll

pretty sure that's only because you're a translesbo

It's part of my contract that I'm always supposed to have a lesbian bff type in my life and sadly they all currently live in distant cities so I'm due for a new one.


by Luckbox Inc

I had sex with a lesbian once. Twice actually. Was happy to be able to check that box off. She's now happily in a relationship with a woman but just wanted to try it.

Then she was bi not lesbian


by Luciom

Then she was bi not lesbian

again, not if he was translesbian 😀


by Luciom

Then she was bi not lesbian

If you make that the criteria then there won't be many lesbians left.


by Luckbox Inc

If you make that the criteria then there won't be many lesbians left.

He's Italian, he can't help it.


by coordi

I'm giving you straight forward answers. There is a reason I'm not a reddit admin or a 2p2 mod. There is a reason I don't write policy or own a business. 1. If I'm admin there are no rules. I stated that pretty clearly. We know this doesn't work and certain topics devolve. I think if someone breaks an explicitly written rule its just though. I didn't break a rule and it

Okay, so you are homophobic and misogynistic, but at least we've established where we disagree (on everything, I guess). I think it's indefensibly cruel to place rape victims in a position where they need to "reframe their trauma" and just deal with males in crisis centers putting hands on them. We should do everything possible to comfort someone who does NOT want to be in close proximity to people who trigger them.

You skipped my earlier question on how you define a "gay marriage." If you don't recognize the immutable sex binary that we belong to, I don't think you can claim to support gay rights/marriage. There's no such thing as same-sex attraction if you promote self-identification as something to overrule sex itself. This is how we wind up with ass-backward and illogical stances that lesbians are bigots for turning down men with dicks.

Sure, there are "trans females", but most of us just call them men because we use objective definitions that are rooted in reality. Our biology is extremely important and it's puzzling that you think it's totally reasonable to abandon it, especially at the expense of so much. But as I said, we'll just need to agree to disagree, I guess.

Thanks for doing your best to answer. Cheers.


by uke_master

It's "trans allies". No space. Please do get the basics right as you spout your, uh, whatever this is.

Listen, my delusional friend, you want men to compete in women’s sports which means you do not want females to be able to enjoy competitive sports. Those broads fought hard for fairness in sports and you’re destroying it.


Oh yEaH aS If sPoRtS HaVe eVeR BeEn fAiR! rEmInD Me wHeN ThEy sEt a hEiGhT MaXiMuM In tHe nBa dUrRrR!! MiChAeL PhElPs bOdY IsN'T FaIr!


by Luckbox Inc

If you make that the criteria then there won't be many lesbians left.

Not sure you are right, but if a person has sex with both sexes voluntarily that's definitionally a bi, and it's uncontroversial.

There is a theory that most homosexual are at least a bit bi, even if they lean mostly the opposite sex (or not, depending on them), still bi.

Bi is the underestimate label because it's "too normal" with benefits, doesn't necessarily need to have a life different from hetero people in daily routines and so on, so the "liberation movement" didn't give a **** about them.

Only "pure homosexual" at the beginning were interesting to activists, and now they are too normal anyway so only trans people matter basically.

This is the game the way they play it.

If a chick or a guy likes pussies and dicks, that's bi, definitionally.


by Phresh

Oh yEaH aS If sPoRtS HaVe eVeR BeEn fAiR! rEmInD Me wHeN ThEy sEt a hEiGhT MaXiMuM In tHe nBa dUrRrR!! MiChAeL PhElPs bOdY IsN'T FaIr!

I think females would disagree with you, call you an idiot, and beat you down. They fought hard to have their own sports. You’re trying to ruin that because you have mommy issues and hate all women.


by Luciom

Not sure you are right, but if a person has sex with both sexes voluntarily that's definitionally a bi, and it's uncontroversial.There is a theory that most homosexual are at least a bit bi, even if they lean mostly the opposite sex (or not, depending on them), still bi.Bi is the underestimate label because it's "too normal" with benefits, doesn't necessarily need to have a lif

I don’t know, bro. I’ve laid pipe to a fair number of lesbians. Fact is, when they get a look at my enormous purple-headed mule pecker, they say to themselves, “Madone!” Curiosity gets the best of them and they want to experience it. Some of them come back for more because of what I’m able to do for them. Nomsayin?


by originalgangster

I don’t know, bro. I’ve laid pipe to a fair number of lesbians. Fact is, when they get a look at my enormous purple-headed mule pecker, they say to themselves, “Madone!” Curiosity gets the best of them and they want to experience it. Some of them come back for more because of what I’m able to do for them. Nomsayin?

No I don't, a gay won't go with the most sensual of women, a lesbian won't be attracted to an enormous purple headed whatever


by Luciom

No I don't, a gay won't go with the most sensual of women, a lesbian won't be attracted to an enormous purple headed whatever

Mule pecker. Purple-headed mule pecker.


by Phresh

Okay, so you are homophobic and misogynistic, but at least we've established where we disagree (on everything, I guess). I think it's indefensibly cruel to place rape victims in a position where they need to "reframe their trauma" and just deal with males in crisis centers putting hands on them. We should do everything possible to comfort someone who does NOT want to be in clos

You’re a scumbag, **** off


by coordi

You’re a scumbag, **** off

Pretty common for people to resort to personal attacks once it’s become clear to them they’ve lost a debate.


by originalgangster

Pretty common for people to resort to personal attacks once it’s become clear to them they’ve lost a debate.

Pretty common to call irredeemable scumbags a scumbag, too


by coordi

Pretty common to call irredeemable scumbags a scumbag, too

Resorting to name-calling when you get triggered reminds me of someone… do you wear orange face paint, have tiny hands, and tweet incessantly?


by originalgangster

Resorting to name-calling when you get triggered reminds me of someone… do you wear orange face paint, have tiny hands, and tweet incessantly?

You do realize that the post I responded to was littered with name calling?

You don't even know what a debate is, so probably not


Mods, I was quite fairly banned for insulting comments I made in this thread. No disagreement with that. Very soon though I will be going through this thread to report all of the transphobic slurs that I see regularly posted here.

Cancel culture goes both ways on this forum, hopefully.


by checkraisdraw

Mods, I was quite fairly banned for insulting comments I made in this thread. No disagreement with that. Very soon though I will be going through this thread to report all of the transphobic slurs that I see regularly posted here.

Cancel culture goes both ways on this forum, hopefully.

lol, you sweet summer child


Alright, friends.

So we didn't lower the temperature in here as requested and now we have some updates.

Coordi will return to us in 1 day for personal attacks.

Originalgangster will return to us in 3 days for personal attacks as a previously multiple times-banned poster.

Phresh will return to us in 7 days for personal attacks and again denying the existence of transgender people.

Attack the argument, not the person making it. Thanks 😀


Phresh will return to us in 7 days for personal attacks and again denying the existence of transgender people.

Ooh man, he just came back from vacation.


Tweet links to a pretty wild story


Link is here and it's a true horror story

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic...

Complicated legal developments but the custody loss isn't discussed in detail, probably something very important is missing


by Luciom

Link is here and it's a true horror story

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic...

Complicated legal developments but the custody loss isn't discussed in detail, probably something very important is missing

I agree something important is missing. Look at the last line in the story:

They added: 'At Children’s National, it is as if all critical reasoning toward the child was suspended, and there was no investigation into the extent that the child was lying.'

What do they mean by “the child was lying”. Because the way the story is laid out by the Daily Mail it sounds like they just took this kid because they wanted to force him to be trans. But an attempted suicide plus possibly some abuse allegations from the kid seems like the more likely reason, and the gender transition just happened to coincide with removal from a possibly abusive home.

Also the headline claims this person to be autistic, but if you read the article, they underwent two autism tests that did not result in a diagnosis.

And let’s not forget they are 19 now and could return to their parents if they wanted to. The fact they didn’t speaks volumes.

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