2/2 Live - AA on extremely dry board, facing an all in on flop

2/2 Live - AA on extremely dry board, facing an all in on flop

Hero has table covered with $4500. We do mandatory straddle $10 UTG. The villain in this hand is ~$1100 eff.

In BB with AA83hhcc

1 call, LP pot to $45, 1 call, hero pot $205, LP calls

V is a fishy player with a lot of money to throw around. Not a whale or maniac, but he can play pretty loose.

Flop ($465) K72r 1 club 1 heart

First question before getting into what happened, how much should I bet here?

26 July 2024 at 09:20 AM
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I am checking the flop


What is our stack off threshold with an SPR of 2?

Feel like a small bet accomplishes the most here.

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Pot it for equity denial. Hard to imagine that anyone, let alone described V, is dense enough in KK to play it differently.


I'd bet 150 or so and not folding to a raise.

edit: potting seems fine as well. Checking I don't like very much.


First 3 replies all have completely different answers lol. That should narrow it down for the OP. All kidding aside, if you have already decided that you are gii regardless, then pot it to deny some equity. If still unsure, I think a 1/3 pot size works well.


I definitely wouldn't pot - allows him to fold worse and jam better. I think betting somewhere around 200 is the way to go - can get value from Kx/deny equity.


I assume based on the title that you bet and got jammed on, and I am guessing that you bet small enough on flop that it was an interesting decision, like 200ish.

Your typical live fish is just never, ever bluffing in this spot, there are virtually no semi bluffs, so it feels really exploitable to bet-fold here but it's probably justified against certain players. Are they raise-calling pre with any hands containing 22, like AK22ds, JJ22, etc? How often do they turn up with hands like KQJ7 or similar? Do they ever shove a hand like KQJT, figuring they block top set and your range is super AA-heavy? It sounds like this player is a bit looser and maybe more capable than other live fish, so you might have to call off, but it's not a fun spot.


I mean K72 rainbow hu vs whale is basically as good as it’s going to get so I guess we just drop the hammer and then gii.


Good question .. on a crappy Board.

I think we need to take the mindset of max value. 'We know' the next bet is all-in (for V), so what is the bet amount (on this Board) that will garner the widest calling range for the V. You don't want to go too cheap, but you also want them to pay to hit their Kx holding.

You also want to consider how to manipulate the pot so that you either block or leave open the 'folding door' on the Turn when V is unimproved. They are calling all-in when they improve anyway .. so what bet size do you want to leave them behind to either 'allow' them to fold or force them to call 'anyway'.

You can also take the approach that 'on this Board' any bet is really facing a WAWB spot .. and you were willing to GII PF .. so just pot it and take down/deny right now or see all 5.

You think your V is competent so even a bet of $100 may get a fold, but it also may be too cheap with your over-pair and BD flushes implied equity. V is loose and has a BR, so figure out that max bet .. these guys don't get anything for free when Hero is OOP without proving their range is 'that small'.

Perhaps online we could take some caution. But if you have a Tony G type IP on you live I think you need to bet something to keep them in check .. unless you want them to bet and YOU ARE going to CRAI. The problem with this is that 'they' might bet $100 and then you either lose them when you raise or they got to set their own price to continue.

In PLO I don't see 'a wrong' on a Board like this when HU, but I least like offering a free card. GL


Let's say you have AQJTxxyy or T987xxyy what are you betting?

You should almost never check this flop, what is the point of that?

I definitely wouldn't pot - allows him to fold worse and jam better.

Definitely not true. Villain has a lot of equity with a K here (KQJT)... it's not an instamuck spot for a villain with any piece of this board against our pot even if we show him our hand, and we should be 3-betting preflop and then potting with more than just AA here so against our range villain has a tough decision with any piece, and that is what we want - give him a tough decision.


by nootaboos

I mean K72 rainbow hu vs whale is basically as good as it’s going to get so I guess we just drop the hammer and then gii.

Changed my mind, we should check

Villain isn't a whale says OP plus we can turn equity. We also don't need but 2 streets of betting to gii and can bluffcatch villain as well.


by Phraust

V is a fishy player with a lot of money to throw around.

Going off this comment.



This is your entire 3-betting range from BB and SPR 3.5, at SPR 2 we would be betting even more. Why are you guys even talking about checking this? non-sense


AA without a pair blocker.


AA82 with two back door flush draws on a K73r board.

This decision isn't really that close.


Checking is the worst play by a long long way.

Can't believe people even recommend this.


Hero bets $175, V pots almost putting himself all in, hero?

So I was thinking a 1/3rd-ish size since the board is so insanely dry. No straight draw or fd and with a 7 being the 2nd highest card to a K he really shouldn't hit much here. With any pair he has decent equity but we also have backdoor draws as well. He really shouldn't have hit the board often enough here to worry about that. I was thinking with a smaller sizing I could do this with basically my entire range on this board. If I had something like QJT9ds what would I be doing? 1/3rd seems like a good size for balance. With this sizing I can pot the turn to GII then if I decide to. My hands like QJT9 can turn equity with a pair/wrap/fd etc, I can fold those hands for cheaper if I get raised on the flop, and I get to name my price than x/calling or it possibly checking through then we can't get the money in on the turn. I don't think I should be checking this board ever really though. Maybe only KKXX hands.


Against this described V you just need to cross fingers and put it in if you can handle it mentally. As I indicated above this is a WAWB spot with no obvious draws on this Board. So you have to decide if this V has enough Kx to offset the set/2pr combos he may have ended up with.

The one thing I always say about 'crazy' Players .. While they may appear splashy they usually do end up 'with it' when they put in big money. The chips are more than likely 'available' for recall if you lose this hand. Or you need to just decide to let V have this one .. but is there a better spot? Perhaps.

TBH if this is early in my session or this is a Reg Player I might even fold and show here in order to stir the pot for future gains. "You got me good on this one" and toss in the AA face up. The purest will be against this for sure, but 'my game' is about this type of cat/mouse relationship. $220 is not trivial to let go .. $880 to win $1320-ish .. Are you a 40% winner here or can you stack him in a more predictable spot 'soon'. GL

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