The liberal media and the police Killing of Sonya Massey
I didnt give much thought on the title but I wanted to see if people actually took the time to watch the police body cam
You're an odd chap. Just a few minutes ago, in the other thread, you were lamenting that we should be locking up more people; yet here you are, in the next breath, lamenting that we did.
I see:
-cops ask her to turn it off cause we “don’t need a fire”
-she picks it up and starts pouring it out because they told her too.
-guy with his cam on backs up a couple steps and kinda laughs about backing away from her hot steaming water
-she says something like “I’ll bless you in the name of Jesus”
-shooter says drop it or I’ll shoot you in the face
-she picks up the pot and sort of kneels down and gets headshot.
Dunno man, seems pretty bad. Like they told her to pour it out then got freaked out when she did?
HE told her to check on the pot and said “we don’t need a fire around here”. She went to the stove to turn it off.
He stepped back and she asked why, he said it was bc he was worried about the hot water; she said she’ll pour it out and moved to do so by picking up the pot and taking it to the sink
lets try this again. She turns off the burner. Why does she reach for oven mitts first? why does she take the pot from the stove and place it on the counter? I must be nuts really.
I admittedly didn't spend a lot of time on this, but I didn't see any intent to throw boiling water. Even if there was that doesn't justify shooting.
Plus, she was the one who called the cops over and didn't seem agitated.
Instead of shooting her, the cops should have locked her up for having such a messy house.
She says something to the officer that he responds to with "I'll shoot you in the ****ing face". I can't make out what it is.
Perhaps after her words the officer says something like, "Ma'am, please don't threaten us. Pour the water out and we'll continue with our conversation". De-escalate the situation, it's quite simple and every officer should be taught this.
"I rebuke you in the name of Jesus." After Massey repeats her statement at Grayson's prompting, Grayson draws his gun and replies, "You better ****ing not, I swear to God I'll ****ing shoot you right in your ****ing face."
OP doesn't seem to think much of pesky protections like constitutional rights:
So I don't know why he's so concerned about this particular citizen being locked up all of a sudden.
She actually said "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus." Not exactly a blessing.
She was a paranoid schizophrenic. Insert Dirty Harry into that and you see the result.
Yeah, it is. It's easy for anyone that's not a psycho to find a better outcome than shooting a woman holding a pot of hot water.
She says something to the officer that he responds to with "I'll shoot you in the ****ing face". I can't make out what it is.
Perhaps after her words the officer says something like, "Ma'am, please don't threaten us. Pour the water out and we'll continue with our conversation". De-escalate the situation, it's quite simple and every officer should be taught this.
She said “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus”. I spent part of my childhood in the South and heard this phrase frequently, especially from the religious black community. It literally just means I don’t like/agree with what you just said or did.
This cop murdered this woman because she told him she thought him being afraid of her having hot water was insulting and wrong, but she said it in a parlance he did not understand, and he murdered her for it.
“I rebuke you in the name of Jesus” implies no aggression or action on the person who says it. They’re not going to “do” anything to you. They’re saying they disagree with something you said or did. She didn’t like him implying she was crazy or going to hurt him. Which makes it so ridiculous for him to draw his gun on her for saying it and then screaming “You better ****in’ not!” Just a classic overly aggressive ignorant murderous response from a man who should never have been granted the authority.
I see: -cops ask her to turn it off cause we “don’t need a fire”-she picks it up and starts pouring it out because they told her too. -guy with his cam on backs up a couple steps and kinda laughs about backing away from her hot steaming water -she says something like “I’ll bless you in the name of Jesus”-shooter says drop it or I’ll shoot you in the face-she picks up the pot an
Seems bad if you ignore the obvious. She brought them in the house so that she could dump boiling water on them. That seems to be very easily ascertained once you see the lady throwing the pot at him. what you are not realizing was that he sensed what was about to happen. You're suggesting his actions caused her to do what she did.
"I rebuke you in the name of Jesus." After Massey repeats her statement at Grayson's prompting, Grayson draws his gun and replies, "You better ****ing not, I swear to God I'll ****ing shoot you right in your ****ing face."
Thanks. So remember how after George Floyd there was all this talk about having different options for these situations, like therapists getting involved with people with mental issues and making house calls? This would've been a good time to trot that out.
lets try this again. She turns off the burner. Why does she reach for oven mitts first? why does she take the pot from the stove and place it on the counter? I must be nuts really.
Ok friend. The pot handles are HOT. So she needs OVEN MITTS so she doesn’t BURN her HANDS.
Stay tuned for more basic kitchen tips
did you bother to take a minute to watch 5 seconds of video I linked? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills
Seems bad if you ignore the obvious. She brought them in the house so that she could dump boiling water on them. That seems to be very easily ascertained once you see the lady throwing the pot at him. what you are not realizing was that he sensed what was about to happen. You're suggesting his actions caused her to do what she did.
scroll back a few seconds brother. shes sitting on the couch and the officer instructs her to go and turn off the boiling water.
Seems bad if you ignore the obvious. She brought them in the house so that she could dump boiling water on them. That seems to be very easily ascertained once you see the lady throwing the pot at him. what you are not realizing was that he sensed what was about to happen. You're suggesting his actions caused her to do what she did.
She wasn’t even in the kitchen until they directed her to go deal with the pot of water.
She said “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus”. I spent part of my childhood in the South and heard this phrase frequently, especially from the religious black community. It literally just means I don’t like/agree with what you just said or did. This cop murdered this woman because she told him she thought him being afraid of her having hot water was insulting and wrong, but she
dude take a minute and watch the link I posted 5 seconds in slow motion. watch from 28:16 to 28:22 in the slowest speed possible.
at 28:18 she raises her hands above her head holding only oven mits. She drops to the floor w/out the pot. The cops arm blocks the view for 2 seconds until you see her throwing the pot at him. people explain to me why she chose to throw the pot at him and please explain why you don't believe she had every intention of doing that in the first place?
OP completely ignoring everything that everyone ITT is telling him in order to spin his own narrative. Standard.
dude take a minute and watch the link I posted 5 seconds in slow motion. watch from 28:16 to 28:22 in the slowest speed possible.at 28:18 she raises her hands above her head holding only oven mits. She drops to the floor w/out the pot. The cops arm blocks the view for 2 seconds until you see her throwing the pot at him. people explain to me why she chose to throw the pot at h
Yeah, she threw it when she was cowering on the floor and thought she was about to die in a last ditch effort to defend herself, which is what almost any human being is going to do in that spot.
It should not have reached that point. The cop did that.
I have every reason to believe she was just following his directions and pouring out the water until he completely lost his **** on her.
She wasn’t even in the kitchen until they directed her to go deal with the pot of water.
I am aware of that. Dont see how that disproves anything. You turn off the burner and the threat of fire is OVER. You grab oven mits when you want to do what she did.
She said “I rebuke you in the name of Jesus”. I spent part of my childhood in the South and heard this phrase frequently, especially from the religious black community. It literally just means I don’t like/agree with what you just said or did. This cop murdered this woman because she told him she thought him being afraid of her having hot water was insulting and wrong, but she
Yep, even if you don't understand what that phrase signifies, you can tell it's not a deadly threat. A cop could ask, "Oh, what church do you attend?" or anything to keep her talking and show you're not going to hurt her.
Or as I just said in another post, hire other authorities proficient in dealing with people that are manic-depressive, crazy, however you want to describe it.
I am aware of that. Dont see how that disproves anything. You turn off the burner and the threat of fire is OVER. You grab oven mits when you want to do what she did.
I don’t know how to help you understand a sequential progression of events or why you need to protect your hands from burns.
I give up.
Yeah, she threw it when she was cowering on the floor and thought she was about to die in a last ditch effort to defend herself, which is what almost any human being is going to do in that spot.
It should not have reached that point. The cop did that.
ok thanks for taking the time to respond to me. I'm amazed when people think that fear for a cop = attacking the ****ing cop. It always seemed to me like not attacking the cop drastically increase your chances of survival but like I said I'm nuts for sure. You convinced me that I am nuts.
I don’t know how to help you understand a sequential progression of events or why you need to protect your hands from burns.
I give up.
you dont need oven mitts to turn off a stove. If that boggles your mind than so be it. You act like putting a boiling pot of water on a counter top is SOP in kitchens.
You’re not nuts, friend. You’re just wrong in every possible way a person could be wrong about analyzing what we all see with our own eyes.
OP completely ignoring everything that everyone ITT is telling him in order to spin his own narrative. Standard.
Op sees a lady dumping a pot of hot water on a cop. Op suggests the cop caught on to what her intentions were and in the strongest possible terms tried to talk her out of it. Op sees a bunch of people saying that the cops actions were the reason why she chose to throw water at him. You have to admit it is pretty odd for me to argue what i'm arguing and for you guys to all say No it was all his fault. He made her throw the ****in water at him. Had he sweet talked her she would have choose not to do it.
