Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by chillrob

Because they're trying to kill Israelis?

whyre they trying to do that?


bc they are a bunch of jerkoffs who would rather ruin their own civilisation than accept the presence of one jew in the 'holy land'


by metsandfinsfan

Hezbollah is shooting rockets at Israel. Many Israelis have been pushed out of their homes

Trolly: what is the moral way for IDF to respond?

Why do you think that’s happening?

Stop doing the thing that’s provoked it and it will stop.


Hezbollah is is not targeting civilians


In the event Hezbollah does not stop, Israel will look way better and will have more support for going into Lebanon.


by Victor

Hezbollah is is not targeting civilians

Rockets are being launched in proximity to civilian areas, resulting in the evacuation of residents. I am not engaging in a discussion about war crimes, but merely presenting factual information, sir.


by Bluegrassplayer

In the event Hezbollah does not stop, Israel will look way better and will have more support for going into Lebanon.

So if Israel and Gaza reach a ceasefire, and hezbollah stops, Israel is the bad guy if they do anything in retaliation to hezbollah?


Perhaps they regard them as allies of the Israeli gov in the same way that the latter regards Gazans as allies of Hamas; after all they probably have family members in the IDF.

All this **** cuts both ways.


by metsandfinsfan

Rockets are being launched in proximity to civilian areas, resulting in the evacuation of residents. I am not engaging in a discussion about war crimes, but merely presenting factual information, sir.

I just feel the context is important. Hezbollah thus far has been very disciplined at targeting military installations and avoiding civilian casualties. the IDF in Southern Lebanon cannot say the same.


by metsandfinsfan

So if Israel and Gaza reach a ceasefire, and hezbollah stops, Israel is the bad guy if they do anything in retaliation to hezbollah?

If Hezbollah stops then Israel would not be retaliating because they would have already gotten what they want.


by Bluegrassplayer

If Hezbollah stops then Israel would not be retaliating because they would have already gotten what they want.

So it won’t stop till Gaza is controlled by IDF


by Bluegrassplayer

If Hezbollah stops then Israel would not be retaliating because they would have already gotten what they want.

I'm asking if you think israel would be wrong if they shot rockets at Lebanon at that point


People that send money to Hamas are supporting terrorism ya?


by metsandfinsfan

I'm asking if you think israel would be wrong if they shot rockets at Lebanon at that point

Yes if Hezbollah stops firing rockets at Israel then Israel should not attack Hezbollah


by Bluegrassplayer

Yes if Hezbollah stops firing rockets at Israel then Israel should not attack Hezbollah

So is hezbollah wrong for right now shooting rockets at Israel?


by PointlessWords

People that send money to Hamas are supporting terrorism ya?

I'm not sure if you're baiting me.
I'm not sure we're allowed to say that in this thread.
I'm not sure what your point is.
I'm not sure why you don't just say what you want to say.


by Victor

I just feel the context is important. Hezbollah thus far has been very disciplined at targeting military installations and avoiding civilian casualties. the IDF in Southern Lebanon cannot say the same.

Objection!
Relevance to this conversation in the slightest


by metsandfinsfan

So is hezbollah wrong for right now shooting rockets at Israel?

Yes


by Bluegrassplayer

Yes

And do you think that should go unchecked?


No.


So what then


What is the confusion?


Are people that send money to IDF supporting terrorism/ genocide?


by metsandfinsfan

So is hezbollah wrong for right now shooting rockets at Israel?

Are they doing it to help lessen deaths of their allies?


by PointlessWords

Are they doing it to help lessen deaths of their allies?

No, of course not.

The narrative is they are doing it to pressure Israel to leave Gaza. But Israel has demonstrated there is nothing Hezbollah could do that would impact their Gaza plans. All they are accomplishing is initiating hostilities between Israel/Lebanon.

So IF Hezbollah was attacking Israel to pressure them to leave Gaza, Hezbollah should accept they have completely failed, and adjust accordingly.

Of course the truth is Hezbollah is just an Iranian proxy; and Iran is willing to use any pretext to create chaos in the Arab world, to strengthen their own relative position.

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