Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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but they cant eradicate the Resistance or the tunnels. or rather they arent willing to accept the casualties required for that.
Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people in whole or in part. In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group".For the umpteenth time, there is
Mets, what about the five acts that can be committed to qualify as genocide. Are you going to go over those as well?
Is the day after plan such a mystery? Seems pretty obvious.
Eradicate Hamas, destroy as much of the tunnel system as possible, especially on the Egyptian border, pull out, then put a blockade on Gaza that makes the last 20 years look like NAFTA and whatever happens after that, **** it. I don't see any democracy building in Gaza's future.
You forgot that Saudi invests heavily and helps maintain no terrorists and normalization with Israel in exchange for the US agreeing to protect them in a war against Iran
Mets, what about the five acts that can be committed to qualify as genocide. Are you going to go over those as well?
If there is no intent to destroy in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, then the rest is moot. The entire UN definition is based on intent to destroy in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group
Hopefully that clears it up for you
I'm not making up definitions. You are. I'm using the actual UN definition so please stop smearing me by saying that I'm making things up that I am not
You forgot that Saudi invests heavily and helps maintain no terrorists and normalization with Israel in exchange for the US agreeing to protect them in a war against Iran
is the maintaining no terrorists your issue, or the normalization with israel part?
The agreement that biden proposed clearly said that Hamas cannot be in power. The plan was to allow Fatah for now and then possibly have Democratic elections at some point in the future. But biden really wants a Saudi Israel normalization deal and those would be part of the requirements
I wouldn't call it my issue, no
The Saudi deal isn't really that important to me because it unofficially exists anyway. Israel flies over Saudi airspace
Saudi helped shoot down Iranian drones headed to Israel
Biden wants it as a win. And thinks it will help with long term peace in the region. Would it? Maybe
If there is no intent to destroy in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, then the rest is moot. The entire UN definition is based on intent to destroy in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious groupHopefully that clears it up for youI'm not making up definitions. You are. I'm using the actual UN definition so please stop smear
Hamas is apart of Palestinian national , ethnical, racist and a partially religious group
Do you admit Israel is trying to destroy Hamas ?
If there is no intent to destroy in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, then the rest is moot. The entire UN definition is based on intent to destroy in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious groupHopefully that clears it up for youI'm not making up definitions. You are. I'm using the actual UN definition so please stop smear
Looks like you are the one that needs things cleared up for you.
This guy clearly and methodically explains how Israel is committing textbook genocide according to the UN definition. He ticks off all the boxes, including intent.
Does Israel have special intent to destroy Hamas ?
as such Targeted members of the group, not just as individuals.
Are the dynamics of violence genocidal in the sense that they fall into one or more of the five acts
Hamas is apart of Palestinian national , ethnical, racist and a partially religious group
Do you admit Israel is trying to destroy Hamas ?
Hamas is a government
Trying to overthrow a government is not genocide regardless if they are religious or not
Le sigh
Hamas being a govt isn’t exclusive of the other things
So you guys aren’t trying to destroy Hamas?
Looks like you are the one that needs things cleared up for you. This guy clearly and methodically explains how Israel is committing textbook genocide according to the UN definition. He ticks off all the boxes, including intent.
The comments are much more factual than the video
Hamas being a govt isn’t exclusive of the other things
So you guys aren’t trying to destroy Hamas?
Who is you guys?
I'm an American jew but part of you guys?
Interesting
The comments are laughable and ridiculous. There's only one side committing genocide here. The evidence is overwhelming
Hamas being a govt isn’t exclusive of the other things
So you guys aren’t trying to destroy Hamas?
PointlessWords, I would advise you to be precise with your language to avoid unintended consequences. No one in this thread is involved in Israeli or Palestinian government.
How super-saiyan racist do you have to be to blithely assert that Arabs don't love their children? Fully dehumanizing nonsense that just gets tossed around as 20,000 children go missing in Gaza.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/num...
(in b4 someone tells me ABC News is Hamas)
I would say (most) Texans apparently love their guns more than their children. In fact I have said it before, and stand by it.
Does anyone really need to use suicide bombers?
Of course not, some just think it's really fun.
PointlessWords, I would advise you to be precise with your language to avoid unintended consequences. No one in this thread is involved in Israeli or Palestinian government.
ofc they arent which is why my words would never mean that.
I was short handing for you guys who support IDF/Israel's side/ the anti Palestinian people
Hamas doesnt even shoot at the Medivacs or the ambulances. they could, but they dont. bc they have infinitely more principles than the West.
Hamas is apart of Palestinian national , ethnical, racist and a partially religious group
Do you admit Israel is trying to destroy Hamas ?
So when the US took out Osama, that was genocide? 
I guess Sirhan's assassination of RFK was the genocide of Palestinians against Americans? Damn, we should have nuked Gaza 56 years ago!
Does anyone really need to use suicide bombers?
Of course not, some just think it's really fun.
Hamas does not use suicide bombers
Good! But I didn't say they did, and I'm not the one who brought them up.
