25nl How thick is our SDV?

25nl How thick is our SDV?

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NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
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23 April 2024 at 06:20 PM
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by newguyhere

OP you can check your own DB with these filters

Ty for this

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by TripleBerryJam

Should be 1739 calls total. This is with the average 4-bet shoves card removal, so we'll get called by a different range with AKo899 (51.7%) were TT+ AK, 206 (11.85%) 22-99, so it should be 634 (36.5%) hands we crush.We're 40.4% against TT+ AK and 45.6% against 22-99. For the air I'll say 70.1% equity which is what we have vs AQs(.517*.404)+(.1185*.456)+(.365*.701)=0.518769

So it sounds like AJs, AQ+, and TT+ can profitably shove here.

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by TripleBerryJam

Should be 1739 calls total. This is with the average 4-bet shoves card removal, so we'll get called by a different range with AKo899 (51.7%) were TT+ AK, 206 (11.85%) 22-99, so it should be 634 (36.5%) hands we crush.We're 40.4% against TT+ AK and 45.6% against 22-99. For the air I'll say 70.1% equity which is what we have vs AQs(.517*.404)+(.1185*.456)+(.365*.701)=0.518769

Great post TBJ!


Whales who 3b <6% aren't calling a 4b jam with all of that garbage because they don't have it to begin with. They're a separate kind of fish than the maniacs who tilt call off stacks with random trash.


by AskZandar

Whales who 3b <6% aren't calling a 4b jam with all of that garbage because they don't have it to begin with. They're a separate kind of fish than the maniacs who tilt call off stacks with random trash.

Where are you getting <6% 3B from? You can't use the aggregate stat you need to use position specific.

My old CFP data has 6.9% for SB3BETvsCO but I'm pretty sure simplelessons play's on Iggy like me.

I have 8.3%SB3BETvsCO.


The argument of them not having all that trash isn't entirely accurate. Even though they 3bet tighter that doesn't necessarily mean it is a stronger range. If you look at range composition they have weak hands like K9o/A4o sometimes and regs never do.


I have fish SB3Bet v CO at 7.9%



All the talk of Jam is interesting but I would much rather just 4bet 18-20bb and play a 4b pot IP or face a Jam and call as I expect their jam range to be weaker than there call of range however I play on untracked so no data to back this up


by newguyhere

I have fish SB3Bet v CO at 7.9%

Thx for the data NG.

We need between 48%-49% equity vs his calling range to jam profitably. I'm looking at that 3bet range and I don't think hands like AQo/AQs/AJs/ATs/KQs are folding very often vs a jam.

Also him folding a hand like QJo is not a bad result as we still get to net 8bb and not pay rake.

What are your thought's on jamming preflop vs just calling the 3bet?


jamming is the worst option (excluding fold ofc)

river is tricky vs a fish...

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