The costs of trans visibility

The costs of trans visibility

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30 June 2023 at 04:48 PM
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by hole in wan

BuI'll take your word for it. As far as I can tell the term came from within academia from those that had the courage to speak outThat's a weird statement. Is a bottle opener a foolish oversimplification? The term accurately and concisely describes an ideology. It would only be foolish if it falsely misled people to not give cultural marxism its due respect. Since it's not due

I've never heard a credible person use the term in earnest. Googling it's origins shows nothing from academia. I guess the Nazis used the term "cultural Bolshevism."

Usually an academic would critisize a school of philosophy or a given writer, like Foucault or whomever. They hopefully wouldn't make up some mushy term that just means "stuff I don't like" and conflate giant corporations with with radical LW writers.

It's a foolish oversimplification because not everyone who thinks racism exists agrees that science is a social construct or whatever. Just like everyone who thinks weed should be legal isn't an anarchist.

These philosophies have faced constant criticism from academics. Which is good because they are silly imo.

Chomsky despises this stuff, for example.

https://youtu.be/urro3f4tDoI?si=HYSH7O0M...


by Dunyain

Maybe not at the highest levels where real money is at stake. But I have been predicting for a couple years now that the more "trans" women insist on competing in female athletics, the more at the recreational levels girls would just decide to stop competing against them. And this seems to be how things are going.

Shes an 11 year old on puberty blockers, which according to the people itt cause irreparable harm to muscle and bone structure while blocking testosterone production that would begin male puberty which is where the bone and muscle density become irreversibly superior to females.

According to the most bigoted of bigots (even itt) she should be more female than most females

They literally can't win with you people.


by coordi

Shes an 11 year old on puberty blockers, which according to the people itt cause irreparable harm to muscle and bone structure while blocking testosterone production that would begin male puberty which is where the bone and muscle density become irreversibly superior to females.According to the most bigoted of bigots (even itt) she should be more female than most femalesThey li

Depends on when he started taking puberty blockers.

But given we don't want to validate puberty blockers use for minors who think they are of the opposite sex, even if starting puberty blockers immediately would remove most of the biological sport advantage of being male, we shouldn't let them play with females anyway.


by coordi

Shes an 11 year old on puberty blockers, which according to the people itt cause irreparable harm to muscle and bone structure while blocking testosterone production that would begin male puberty which is where the bone and muscle density become irreversibly superior to females.According to the most bigoted of bigots (even itt) she should be more female than most femalesThey li

They shouldn't be able to win.

Someone in this thread just linked a video, the action you're criticising was taken by young girls who didn't want to compete against a boy. Why don't you tell us what you think of those bigoted girls and how they're wrong here.


by chillrob

They shouldn't be able to win.

Someone in this thread just linked a video, the action you're criticising was taken by young girls who didn't want to compete against a boy. Why don't you tell us what you think of those bigoted girls and how they're wrong here.

If you measured that "boys" testosterone, it would be lower than all five of those "girls". Its already been conceded that testosterone is the secret sauce. Testosterone in puberty.

Those girls are morons who were manipulated by their bigoted parents. Thats how they are wrong.

Just like people in this thread will say one thing and wiggle to the opposite just to be cruel. Because cruelty is the point, not anything else.


Oh noes, shenanigans taking place at (checks notes) middle school shotput competitions? You guys are worked up about that now?


by chillrob

They shouldn't be able to win.

They are just a human. This is how you are talking about another human.

Just like a black person, or a gay person, or jewish person. You aren't excused from being a bigot just because you think someone is a lower class than yourself. Thats... actually the definition of bigotry...


by coordi

If you measured that "boys" testosterone, it would be lower than all five of those "girls". Its already been conceded that testosterone is the secret sauce. Testosterone in puberty.Those girls are morons who were manipulated by their bigoted parents. Thats how they are wrong.Just like people in this thread will say one thing and wiggle to the opposite just to be cruel. Beca

Do you really believe that 8y old boys are the same average height of 8y girls? Is this a joke?


by Luciom

Do you really believe that 8y old boys are the same average height of 8y girls? Is this a joke?

Huh? This shows they are the same. I would have thought the girls were taller. The tallest kids at my kids elementary school were all girls.

https://www.babycenter.com/baby/baby-dev...


by microbet

Huh? This shows they are the same. I would have thought the girls were taller. The tallest kids at my kids elementary school were all girls.

https://www.babycenter.com/baby/baby-dev...

Might be ethnic, in Italy 8y old boys are 3-4 cm taller


How exactly does the height of an 8 year old translate into a physical ad advantage on shot put in middle school?

Is this a joke?

Find those surgeries yet?


by jjjou812

How exactly does the height of an 8 year old translate into a physical ad advantage on shot put in middle school?

Is this a joke?

Find those surgeries yet?

8y old is to explain that there are (smaller) differences even pre puberty.

Anyway in middle school , do you think the girls and boys shoot the same weights ?


by jjjou812

Find those surgeries yet?

You missed this one.

Surprise, surprise.


So now you don't think 8 years old boys and girls can fairly compete in sports? Lol.

Who cares what the weight is if they are throwing the same one.

As others have pointed out, here is someone on puberty blockers, is at an age where there is little physical advantage and less pure competitive concern and you are applauding bigotry.

Your stature only grows here.


I was taller than my peers in middle school yet somehow I was not disqualified from participating in shotput.


by Trolly McTrollson

I was taller than my peers in middle school yet somehow I was not disqualified from participating in shotput.

Hold on, are you telling me that youth sports isn't a perfectly level playing field where all people have identical bodies, identical training, identical access, identical strengths in all regards?!?!?


by uke_master

Hold on, are you telling me that youth sports isn't a perfectly level playing field where all people have identical bodies, identical training, identical access, identical strengths in all regards?!?!?

Would you therefore support just making all youth sports co-ed?


by uke_master

Hold on, are you telling me that youth sports isn't a perfectly level playing field where all people have identical bodies, identical training, identical access, identical strengths in all regards?!?!?

They might have had us compete with girls? I don't even remember or care. Think high jump and long jump might have been co-ed.


by uke_master

Hold on, are you telling me that youth sports isn't a perfectly level playing field where all people have identical bodies, identical training, identical access, identical strengths in all regards?!?!?

So if you don't succeed, step down in class and it's all cool?


by Trolly McTrollson

They might have had us compete with girls? I don't even remember or care. Think high jump and long jump might have been co-ed.

Would you support eliminating girls track and field events and having them complete against the boys?


by Luckbox Inc

Would you support eliminating girls track and field events and having them complete against the boys?

I don't have particularly strong opinions on this, what do you think?


by Trolly McTrollson

I don't have particularly strong opinions on this, what do you think?

I think girls should be able to have their own divisions.


by coordi

Shes an 11 year old on puberty blockers, which according to the people itt cause irreparable harm to muscle and bone structure while blocking testosterone production that would begin male puberty which is where the bone and muscle density become irreversibly superior to females.According to the most bigoted of bigots (even itt) she should be more female than most femalesThey li

If you think 11 year old boys and girls are even close to
the same, I can only imagine how rough dodgeball must have been for you


by Trolly McTrollson

I don't have particularly strong opinions on this, what do you think?

"This"

Lol


by Luckbox Inc

Would you therefore support just making all youth sports co-ed?

No, that doesn't follow.

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