PokerOK (Russian GGPoker skin) CEO went fully unhinged. Stables / winning players banned.
Ivan Briskin, CEO of PokerOK (official skin of GGNetwork) declared a war against poker stables.
Here are two main posts (
Couple of HH/note sharing stables on GG continually call ALL my overbet jams on flop (which vs them is now only ever value) - took me a few wtf’s to figure out what was going on initially.
Now it’s just comedy. Guess they don’t all update/synch notes like they are supposed too lol.
How can you share GG notes? Technically. Screen names are anonymized, notes you can't even download or share like you can on Stars.
Oh let me give you detailed instructions!
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I think what many people here don't see is that this is not about potential cheating or abuse.GG has simply determined that, much like excessive bumhunting in cashgames, stables pooling their knowledge, information and money is too predatory in the MTT world. And they are right.Many of you here don't seem to remember what PokerStars looked like when they still had HU cash, seat
yeah the sad thing is that we as a poker community just fail to make sure the games have some longevity.
There will always be a few that are looking to use the most predatory means to bolster their pockets short term.
right around the time the cartels took over i just stopped playing. I was very vocal on here in explaining how bad of an idea the implementation of cartels is and that this will be the death of heads up. People didn't want to listen and look where we are at now.
I dont think there is a single husng reg left who doesn't bot or use rta.
From my perception it always seemed as if the russian regs were the most toxic and just straight up bad for a game. The stables turn their attention to a speciffic game type churn out hundreds of competent players, share hand histories and so on and in relatively little time the games get sucked dry.
Now this CEO dude sounds like a total douche but honestly it feels like you have brought this on yourself.
Talking about stables and ghosting. Do you guys think the Sunday Mil anniversary winner was playing by himself at the end? CrossBreed17 - Brazilian low stakes player, max MTT win 1.1k before that.
poker is a game of individuals vs individuals, so if they only ban stables, it is actually good news. But if they use it as an excuse to ban also winning players thats dangerous.
From time to time some weird people invite me to their discord channels and offer all types of HH databases. All of them are english speaking. But yeah, russians are evil, others are just cute little bunnies with halos.
I was a member of an international spins school at some point, there was of course no ghosting or any of this cheat ****. They collected our HHs to detect some field tendencies, but they didn't give us that whole database to use at the tables. Same as in most russian schools. I know about just one that shared hh database. You can't have lots of members, do something shady and keep it a secret because people talk lol. Also 'we promote fair play' is just a better marketing than 'let's get together and cheat'.
I supported boycott of Stars when they robbed supernovas even though I was just a noob playing 25 cents mtsngs. Many people back then were like yay, now all the regs will leave, we'll be rich!
Stopped playing on GG now too.
Huge respect to BBZ for his response to all thic circus. That IMO is the best way to promote his business, even though it wasn't his goal here.
Olbore, stop yur propaganda here. Yes, Russians are bad for the game cause their ethic is zero. I have a stable, a big one, and one thing i cant tell you for sure is that Russian and Brazilian teams are one of the worst things for the game. I hope sites ban you all. Do a site for bots, russians, brazilians, so you can run your bots, and ghost your players vs each other.
I guess this is as official statement as we are gonna get anytime soon?
Tldr drunken Russian goes on power trip exaggerating against stables. GG comes in and says We are merely trying to identify Stables who are colluding, ghosting, EV sharing in poker and not acually ban the ones following the rules
Its not good but untill they actually do something what can we really do.
The most interesting part is it seems gg is actually going to start making people disclose their staking deals. Which is probably actually a good thing if it was not entwinned with this poop storm
edit. oh I reread it. seems like they are still trying to ban staking not in client as an excuse to control staking and not actually simply going to let you disclose the info but forcing you to "stake" in client. So they are just being lazy or using it as an excuse
Olbore, stop yur propaganda here. Yes, Russians are bad for the game cause their ethic is zero. I have a stable, a big one, and one thing i cant tell you for sure is that Russian and Brazilian teams are one of the worst things for the game. I hope sites ban you all. Do a site for bots, russians, brazilians, so you can run your bots, and ghost your players vs each other.
Nice trick, accuse the whole NATION of something, if anyone argues, call it propaganda. Isn't that also some type of propaganda? You have a huge stable, you are saying that cheating is normal for other stables, maybe that means you personally are not that much against cheating. For some people cheating is not a normal thing. It has nothing to do with their nationality. Every nation has its cheaters, scammers and so on.
FYI according to the information we have now, all this war on stables has nothing to do with cheating. GG wants them to 'fix' their deposits/withdrawals ratio, that's all. So gl to your huge stable, try not to win a lot. 'More rake is better' all over again.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-6037...
Doesn't mean all Russians are hackers and cyber cheats but clearly most hackers and cyber cheats are russians
Olbore, stop yur propaganda here. Yes, Russians are bad for the game cause their ethic is zero. I have a stable, a big one, and one thing i cant tell you for sure is that Russian and Brazilian teams are one of the worst things for the game. I hope sites ban you all. Do a site for bots, russians, brazilians, so you can run your bots, and ghost your players vs each other.
I hope the sites ban you as well. You are no better than the russians and brazilians, you just dont want other cheaters to compete with.
