Education in the United States

Education in the United States

We have a thread devoted to academic freedom at universities, and we have a thread devoted to whether higher education s

22 December 2020 at 02:29 AM
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by Luciom

some places do this reversed. They test to make homogeneous classes.when the number of "problematic students" is low, that's actually very very good for everyone. top students learn to deal with actual normal people, or people under average. and they get the chance to be in a group with far more resourceful people, and they can learn something in the process.I can't remember ri

i enjoyed my experience at this school. up until that point i was bored out of my mind because we had to wait for the mentally slower ones to catch up on everything.


by d2_e4

I'm a product of the Boston system as well, and I can vouch that the units in Nashua St. and South Bay are still coded similarly. Floor number + letter.

are you being serious right now? both in that you went to BPS and that in jail that is how they do it?

i got locked up as a juvenile for a stretch but thankfully after turning 18 i made bail on my numerous misdemeanors before having to hit nashua street.


by sublime

i enjoyed my experience at this school. up until that point i was bored out of my mind because we had to wait for the mentally slower ones to catch up on everything.

you can have extra (optional) classes for the bright students as they do have in my kid school, he does robotics, other people play with balls


by sublime

are you being serious right now? both in that you went to BPS and that in jail that is how they do it?

i got locked up as a juvenile for a stretch but thankfully after turning 18 i made bail on my numerous misdemeanors before having to hit nashua street.

Yes on 1, not really on 2. Nashua St is floor-unit (1-1, 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 2-1 etc.) South Bay has 5 buildings and they are numbered similarly except the building number is first and then another 1 or 2 numbers after that depending on the building. Buding 1 (the tall one you can see from far away) is 3 digits, the rest are two. So, e.g. 1-2-1 or 3-4.

Not sure what "BPS" stands for, when I was there Nashua Street was just called the jail and South Bay was called SCHOC - Suffolk County House of Corrections. That was 20 years ago though, they might have re-branded.


by d2_e4

Yes on 1, not really on 2. Nashua St is floor-unit (1-1, 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 2-1 etc.) South Bay has 5 buildings and they ate numbered similarly except the building number is first and then another 1 or 2 numbers after that depending on the building. Buding 1 (the tall one you can see from far away) is 3 digits, the rest are two. So 1-2-1 or 3-4.Not sure what "BPS" stands for, when

bps is Boston public schools


by d2_e4

Yes on 1, not really on 2. Nashua St is floor-unit (1-1, 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 2-1 etc.) South Bay has 5 buildings and they ate numbered similarly except the building number is first and then another 1 or 2 numbers after that depending on the building. Buding 1 (the tall one you can see from far away) is 3 digits, the rest are two. So 1-2-1 or 3-4.Not sure what "BPS" stands for, when

boston public schools = BPS

we called nashua street, nashua street and yes just a jail.

south bay we called "the bay," i know very creative.

any other prison we said, "he was sent upstate."


by Luciom

bps is Boston public schools

Oh right, no, I didn't go to school in Boston. That was kinda the joke, that I also enjoyed use of the public facilities but they weren't schools.


by d2_e4

Oh right, no, I didn't go to school in Boston. That was kinda the joke, that I also enjoyed use of the public facilities but they weren't schools.

well, in some ways they were. most guys who went in came out better criminals.


by sublime

boston public schools = BPS

we called nashua street, nashua street and yes just a jail.

south bay we called "the bay," i know very creative.

any other prison we said, "he was sent upstate."

"Upstate" was specifically state prison. Nashua St. And South Bay are Suffolk County facilities. There are jails in other counties that are not "upstate". I was moved to one in Cambridge for a few months which is the Middlesex County jail.


by d2_e4

"Upstate" was specifically state prison. Nashua St. And South Bay are Suffolk County facilities. There are jails in other counties that are not "upstate". I was moved to one in Cambridge for a few months which is the Middlesex County jail.

yep. had a drug dealer who lived across the street from MCJ and i used to peer out his window as i shot up, wondering when the shoe would drop and that would be home.

thankfully i GTFO of boston long enough to put my life on track.....somewhat anyway.

glad you've turned it around. knew a couple of guys who were in there around same time frame. d. greene and a kid named ryan with thunderbolts on his neck.


by sublime

yep. had a drug dealer who lived across the street from MCJ and i used to peer out his window as i shot up, wondering when the shoe would drop and that would be home.thankfully i GTFO of boston long enough to put my life on track.....somewhat anyway.glad you've turned it around. knew a couple of guys who were in there around same time frame. d. greene and a kid named ryan with

Good going kicking the habit man. Saw a tonne of young white kids were coming in straight off the street with trackmarks all over and strung out as ****. Don't know those names. I did have a cell mate who was a pretty big dealer in the street and was involved with that surgeon who was doing operations high on meth. Was a big story at the time, Globe and Herald ran a lot of articles on it IIRC. Cellie was looking at football numbers but I think he ended up pleading out to about 10. Charles Ghera (CJ). Searched him online a while back and found an obituary, guess he got out and went back to the life, no cause of death give so assumed suicide or OD. Not many people turn it around.

ETA: not sure if your use of "on track" was deliberate, but I chuckled.

Did you know Tony Ruberto (sp?) by any chance? Everyone in Boston involved with poker or pool around that time seemed to know him. There was a thread in NVG some years back about him playing a women's NLHE event lol.


by d2_e4

Good going kicking the habit man. Saw a tonne of young white kids were coming in straight off the street with trackmarks all over and strung out as ****. Don't know those names. I did have a cell mate who was a pretty big dealer in the street and was involved with that surgeon who was doing operations high on meth. Was a big story at the time, Globe and Herald ran a lot of arti

same to you, whatever you were into.


AI and chatgpt will save education by having your own virtual teacher and class at home soon :p


by Montrealcorp

AI and chatgpt will save education by having your own virtual teacher and class at home soon :p

maybe you missed the part where I claimed some people can't be helped even with a private tutor


I was half joking but if a student can’t even succeed with a private tutor full time just for himself , it ain’t the system that is facked , it’s the student .
Nothing can be done about that .


by Montrealcorp

I was half joking but if a student can’t even succeed with a private tutor full time just for himself , it ain’t the system that is facked , it’s the student .
Nothing can be done about that .

Your post assumes private tutors are about equal. I would guess that well over half of those students who can't learn something like algebra from an average tutor could learn it from a top 3% tutor.


by David Sklansky

Your post assumes private tutors are about equal. I would guess that well over half of those students who can't learn something like algebra from an average tutor could learn it from a top 3% tutor.

Dude, coming up with the epiphany that you can get strippers to solve for how many tricks they need to turn to afford their meth habit, or whatever you had in mind now, probably getting "inner city" kids to work out the profit margin on buying powder in bulk and cooking it into crack, does not make you a "top 3% tutor".


Not many people know this, but I'm a top 3% poker coach. Check this out, Dave - don't go broke with kings in a limped pot. Why was the pot limped, some of you might ask? Well that was Dave's high level play on the 1/2 table. Get his book to learn more!


I have to say, this thread has me a bit disheartened. It's like we as a society just don't care.

I feel the same way about education as prison reform. Yes, there are definitely people that can't be rehabilitated/educated. I get that. But there are ton of folks/kids that, with help, can turn the corner. It not only benefits them, but it benefits us. One prisoner that doesn't get out and commit crimes means less victims. One kid that leads a productive life means one less drag on our society.

I dunno.


by biggerboat

I have to say, this thread has me a bit disheartened. It's like we as a society just don't care. I feel the same way about education as prison reform. Yes, there are definitely people that can't be rehabilitated/educated. I get that. But there are ton of folks/kids that, with help, can turn the corner. It not only benefits them, but it benefits us. One prisoner that does

We live in a corporate aristocracy. Once you realize that everything else makes perfect sense unfortunately.


by biggerboat

I have to say, this thread has me a bit disheartened. It's like we as a society just don't care. I feel the same way about education as prison reform. Yes, there are definitely people that can't be rehabilitated/educated. I get that. But there are ton of folks/kids that, with help, can turn the corner. It not only benefits them, but it benefits us. One prisoner that does

According to inso, to fix the 60-80 percentiles (with 1 top, 100 bottom) you have to completely give up the bottom 80-100 basically (change numbers if the quantitative assessment is different, but that is the qualitative idea).

That might be true for the USA, not sure tbh.

What's your take on that specifically?


You don't need to completely give up on them, but you do need to get them away from everyone else while you un**** the current situation.

That cohort will shrink over time as the overall quality of the school environment improves and the younger ones see and emulate the behavior of the older students.

What does Japan do to have such an iron grip on their 10 and under crowd to the point where the kids themselves clean the school and wash their own lunch trays? Where you at, Japanese posters?


by Inso0

What does Japan do to have such an iron grip on their 10 and under crowd to the point where the kids themselves clean the school and wash their own lunch trays? Where you at, Japanese posters?

Japan has samurai and bukkake. That's pretty much the extent of my knowledge of Japan.


by d2_e4

Japan has samurai and bukkake. That's pretty much the extent of my knowledge of Japan.

Don't lie, you know sushi


by Inso0

You don't need to completely give up on them, but you do need to get them away from everyone else while you un**** the current situation. That cohort will shrink over time as the overall quality of the school environment improves and the younger ones see and emulate the behavior of the older students.What does Japan do to have such an iron grip on their 10 and under crowd to t

The complete answer about Japan would get me banned but let's say it's POSSIBLE it's about ethnicity among other things

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