Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

Biggest loser in online poker history wants to grind $16k

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nl2 -$8792.18 -82 buy ins below EV

nl5 (notice that pt4 shows party poker nl5 as nl4)

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18 March 2019 at 01:30 PM
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by TeddyD

in >12k hands only 4x he lost with over 80% equity? 4? and he says the RNG is rigged? bloody hell...thats sun running! Am i reading that right!?

You say same thing when it is 32x 80%+ suckouts. There is no amount that you makes you say anything else.

by enzet

What happened, Paisty?

Too much losings with absolute best hands. Very difficult to make profit when we get months like this.


Just hide the green line and focus on the EV line. Your EV and green line will convergence eventually. However, what you are doing doesn't seem to be working, badbeats or not. Maybe focus on that.


by HannesB

Just hide the green line and focus on the EV line. Your EV and green line will convergence eventually. However, what you are doing doesn't seem to be working, badbeats or not. Maybe focus on that.

Hello Hannes. What size of bankroll you suggest to nl2? My worst year was 200 buy ins below EV.


by Paisting

Hello Hannes. What size of bankroll you suggest to nl2? My worst year was 200 buy ins below EV.

Well the usual 20 i'd say. Aren't you playing NL10? Out of interest, how many hands you had on that year and what standard deviation?


by Paisting

Hello Hannes. What size of bankroll you suggest to nl2? My worst year was 200 buy ins below EV.

move up where they respect your raises


by HannesB

Well the usual 20 i'd say. Aren't you playing NL10? Out of interest, how many hands you had on that year and what standard deviation?

20 would be fine with a normal 10nl win rate.

As much as paisting likes to hide behind bad beats, he has a negative EV win rate so probably needs 20,000 buy in bankroll


Well you’re neither a pro, nor a gambling addict, the EV difference makes literally zero difference for you.

The worst thing can happen you play a couple of days less at the end of months, and when the welfare checks arrive you can continue. You lose the same amount longterm.


Correct bankroll when you are -EV is infinite.
Assuming your EV stays the same (which somehow apply to OP), you reload until you give up.


disasta?


Question Paisting:

In months when you don't lose as much and have some money left over, what do you do with the extra money?


Brutal month with running 100 dollars under ev. Almost 170 dollars went to 23 suckouts.

2x 95%+ equity suckouts
5x 80-90% equity suckouts
8x 70-80% equity suckouts
7x 65-70% equity suckouts




solid ev line though


by Paisting

Brutal month with running 100 dollars under ev. Almost 170 dollars went to 23 suckouts.

Even if you ran $100 above EV you'd still have had a losing month.

You play so bad that you'd have to run above EV at ridiculous rates just to break even.

How is this concept not registering with you yet after all these years? Do you even understand what an EV line is telling you? Your EV was -$282 which means that is how much you deserved to win based on your play/your average equity when the money goes in.

Your lifetime ev is probably at -$250,000+ at micro stakes.

Dude just quit already. Things are never going to improve for you in this game simply because you've never put in the work and never will.


-30 evbb/100 is a pretty massive improvement compared to your all time winrate so cheer up. If you can keep that, then congrats, you're no longer the worst player in your pool and probably the most improved player ever.


He just cant punt that many buyins when he's showing who is who because of deposit limits and limited walfare funds.


Is this $10NL snap you are playing?


So you lost $388.49 when you 'should' have lost $281.91. Focus on the $281.91 instead of the $106.58.


by Snowstorm

How is this concept not registering with you yet after all these years? Do you even understand what an EV line is telling you? Your EV was -$282 which means that is how much you deserved to win based on your play/your average equity when the money goes in.

You forget these hands where rng clearly favours whale. When you combine all these with all those suckouts you see that it's very hard to make profit when circumstances are like this.

888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

RiccoBoss69 (UTG): $14.07 (141 bb)
fredcas (MP): $11.14 (111 bb)
braywa777 (CO): $16.31 (163 bb)
Paisting (BU): $10.00 (100 bb)
LucyTheWitch (SB): $11.76 (118 bb)
THE66DOG (BB): $12.11 (121 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with 8 8
1 fold, fredcas (MP) calls $0.10, 1 fold, Paisting (BU) raises to $0.50, 2 players fold, fredcas (MP) calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.15) K 8 K (2 players)
fredcas (MP) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $0.92, fredcas (MP) calls $0.92

Turn: ($2.99) 2 (2 players)
fredcas (MP) checks, Paisting (BU) bets $2.39, fredcas (MP) calls $2.39

River: ($7.77) 4 (2 players)
fredcas (MP) bets $5.12, Paisting (BU) raises to $6.19 (all-in), fredcas (MP) calls $1.07

Total pot: $20.15 (Rake: $1.01)

Showdown:
Paisting (BU) shows 8 8 (a full house, Eights full of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 0%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

fredcas (MP) shows K K (four of a kind, Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 100%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

fredcas (MP) wins $19.14

by MarkDavis

Is this $10NL snap you are playing?

Yes it is.


That's not a whale, that's nit fish. You're a whale. At least after all these years learn the proper poker terminology.


by heat555

That's not a whale, that's nit fish. You're a whale. At least after all these years learn the proper poker terminology.

Limp call kings is ****ing massive whale. You are never in good position with any board after that. You lose massive amount of value doing so. Limp call is always whale.


by Paisting

You are never in good position with any board after that.

No

by Paisting

You lose massive amount of value doing so.

Yes

by Paisting

Limp call is always whale.

Fish +

Gl in grind, wishing you all the best.


by Paisting

You forget these hands where rng clearly favours whale. When you combine all these with all those suckouts you see that it's very hard to make profit when circumstances are like this.

As usual, your reply has nothing to do with my questions.

But I'll try again - tell us what work you've done in your poker "career" that makes you think you deserve to win


every strong player sometimes mix in some limp/calls with kings to balance and remain unpredictable just open a tv and you will see the best in the world doing that, it works awesomely against weak people😂😂😂
anyways thanks for the memories im gonna have fun spending your money🤑🤑🤑


Having no raising range seems like a viable strat with Paisting behind, having said that is he ever folding to a limp 3 bet ?


by herbalerv

Having no raising range seems like a viable strat with Paisting behind, having said that is he ever folding to a limp 3 bet ?

limp/raising has to be the most disrespectful thing one can do to Paisting. he will shove over your raise 100% to punish you. this is why he's so tough to play against! you never know what he has when he shoves...

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