President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
Despite some weird revisionism, world wars do not happen because it's in anyone's interest.
If it happens it will be as the result if miscalculation. The risks are higher because all the old calculations are being disrupted and a few very dangerous people are in charge.
I think this makes sense when you look more at how wars escalated than began. Hitler didn't walk into ww2, he talked about it and planned it accordingly well before. But I think the problem that also worsens this is when authoritarian leaders would rather go to war than lose power, especially when power is consolidated to one person like that. Putin is that, so is Ali. Xi, not so much.
Hitler had a pact with russia, wanted one with the brits and was happy with the usa out of it. None of that would have lasted because hitler was never stopping but he didn't plan to fight us all at once.
Putin might do somthing because he is personally cornered but Ww1 is an example of how wars start because of calculations about what the other side will do. They don't actually have to do it to start the war.
The Giant Insect scowls out over his minions. "Everybody lies in politics, everybody has a prejudiced bone or two" ... wags the tongue of the fascist enablers. We don't mind going down in history as the movement that took America over the precipice. Jesus is coming soon. No worries.
When a government is developing nuclear weapons and saying they are going to use them to obliterate the devil of Israel and attack the USA, what is the alternative?
Like Iraq back in 2003?
I guess not since this time Trump's own head of his IC said Iran wasn't developing nukes. Yeah, I know, she has since recanted by blaming the media for her testimony and will soon be fired, but we all know that's bullshit.
Also, links to Iran stating they are going to use nukes to attack USA and Israel?
The issue with this is I have absolutely no idea if the intelligence is close to true, or if it's the same unreliable source bullshit we had with Blair and Bush. It probably is all BS, but given Iran is pretty close to a terrorist state, I would not want those mad bastards getting nuke capability, even on a 0.1% chance.
Also, what Iran says is absolutely no guide to what Iran does.
busto nation with a 35% poverty rate spends decades pouring ungodly amounts of capital into nuclear enrichment
while sitting on on 10% to 15% of the world's oil and gas reserves
gee i wonder why
Probably.still better than that rogue nation with a secret nuclear arsenal that doesn't allow for inspections and bullies others because they have their big brother to hand them money and weapons
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The issue with this is I have absolutely no idea if the intelligence is close to true, or if it's the same unreliable source bullshit we had with Blair and Bush. It probably is all BS, but given Iran is pretty close to a terrorist state, I would not want those mad bastards getting nuke capability, even on a 0.1% chance.Also, what Iran says is absolutely no guide to what Iran d
Netanyahu is a corrupt lying nationalist dingbat, Trump is a corrupt incompetent moron and Iran is a corrupt theocracy under control of a religious corporate mafia masquerading as a branch of its armed forces. And they all attract exactly the kind of incompetent corrupt weather-wanes you would expect.
Meanwhile, social media is a cesspool of hot take pundits and bot networks exploiting the algorithms so machines can give readers dopamine addiction to doomscrolling, to the point where it is extremely difficult to figure out what is fabricated, what is half-truth and what is factual. Traditional media can't figure out **** because the haze of incompetence and untrustworthiness is too thick, so pretty much all they can say is that "bombs were dropped".
The reality is that we know pretty much jack **** about what is going on, we can't trust any of the players involved and there isn't analyst alive which has a solid notion about where this is headed.
The only point worth making is that a bunch of shitty untrustworthy leaders is involved. Instead of debating whether "we should trust them this once", we should merely note that this gallery of miscreants should not have been left in charge of anything.
Speaking of social media...
US embassy wants 'every social media username of past five years' on new visa applications
The embassy also wants people to set their social media profiles to public.
That's a bit strong innit?
Netanyahu is a corrupt lying nationalist dingbat, Trump is a corrupt incompetent moron and Iran is a corrupt theocracy under control of a religious corporate mafia masquerading as a branch of its armed forces. And they all attract exactly the kind of incompetent corrupt weather-wanes you would expect.Meanwhile, social media is a cesspool of hot take pundits and bot networks exp
Great post!
When are people going to wise up and back politicians with integrity. Yes, they exist, or would if we stopped voting in the horrible ones.
uh huh
When a government is developing nuclear weapons and saying they are going to use them to obliterate the devil of Israel and attack the USA, what is the alternative? Waiting for it to happen to make sure you don't violate their rights or autonomy doesn't seem a great option? At that point, the threat makes self-defense reasonable and rightful. When you are the one that can stop
So, you're claiming that Iran's government outright said that they're going to use nuclear bombs on Israel and/or the US? Because I'm gonna need a big ol' citation on that one... and shockingly, Google found no such claim from Iran.
Like it or not, Iran is run by reasonably rational people, not maniacs with a death wish. They have obvious and clear incentives towards obtaining nuclear weapons, as it's perhaps the strongest known factor in dissuading other nations from invading.
Presumably this means you were opposed to the only actual use of nuclear weapons in world history, which, of course, was done by... the U.S.
JFC. One day I hope you all will realize that the U.S. is a rogue state which both funds and commits terrorism, and that it is arguably the planet's greatest threat to world peace (as the rest of the planet understands, according to all polling).
busto nation with a 35% poverty rate spends decades pouring ungodly amounts of capital into nuclear enrichment
while sitting on on 10% to 15% of the world's oil and gas reserves
gee i wonder why
They don't want to be invaded? And they also want nuclear power, like many other nations enjoy? I know this doesn't rile up your neocon imagination very much, Mr. Rumsfeld.
um, well, since they don't have full-capacity nuclear weapons, they're getting bombed, just like I directly inferred!
And, of course, I used the word "invaded", and that hasn't yet happened to a significant degree (boots on the ground), but taking the time to read something accurately may have gotten in the way of BAIDS rushing in here to clank a dunk off the back of the rim, and we can't have that.
more absolutely stellar posting from former Vice President Cheney
i dont know who these people think they are fooling, other than themselves
It seems like you missed my first sentence of my three-sentence post, "they don't want to be invaded?"
That's clearly the primary motivation -- a deterrence from invasion. Not a guarantor (BOIDS' post was very stupid for MANY reasons), but a deterrence.
And they're right. Again, reasonably rational and self-interested actors run Iran's government, not bloodthirsty maniac savages who will launch nukes the second they get them, as many neocons like BOIDS prefer to portray.
Great leadership.
