The murder of Charlie Kirk

The murder of Charlie Kirk

Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?

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10 September 2025 at 06:58 PM
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by bahbahmickey

I hope you are being sarcastic here. Jafrezi is of course lying about the quote with an insane twist of words.

Oh I'm dead serious. Now doing all the homework I can to rule out the groyper claim as it would be irresponsible of me not to.


by geezerchess

Reading comprehension not your strong suit, is it?

(Not mine either tbh)

Not sure what you mean. The knight seems to be suggesting that those opposed to Candace Owens are propagandists and lying demons. So you’re a Candace Owens subscriber?


by Luciom

Some gamer stuff did align with groyperism/fuentism.

I have absolutely no idea what this means


by DoyleBrunsonFan

Yup, intellectualism on college campuses is under attack from both the right and the left. Although the right in America has been the most overt champion of anti intellectualism in recent times.

qatar is obviously social conservative usually (it invests a lot in anti-alcohol propaganda for example). But it's also a place led by very smart, cunning people. They do accept (tolerate) extremism in social mores on the left if it's accompanied by relentless support for Hamas for example. They finance "queers for palestine" and the like. Which are an existential paradox and bad joke, but not when you understand they are funded by enemies of the west to create chaos in our societies.


by natediggity

I have absolutely no idea what this means

Some of the memes related to the ammos engraving mapped upon stuff that obscene antisemites who follow fuentes do in their gaming communities.

The assassin engraved very niche memes used mostly by incel fuentes fans, is that clear written like this?


by Luciom

I think there was a window in time where , given the info available, the claim was defensible. Some gamer stuff did align with groyperism/fuentism. I don't think it was the typical attempt of disgusting monsters on the left to shape the narrative.I think there were genuine elements to believe it was possible the assassin was to the right of Kirk.

Not sure the motive is as clear as you think it is.


by Luciom

Some of the memes related to the ammos engraving mapped upon stuff that obscene antisemites who follow fuentes do in their gaming communities.

The assassin engraved very niche memes used mostly by incel fuentes fans, is that clear written like this?

I can read and understand the words. Until today had never heard of a groyper (one of which apparently killed Kirk). No clue who Fuentes is (I assume that's a person).

People need to get off social media. It is absolute poison.


by DoyleBrunsonFan

Not sure what you mean. The knight seems to be suggesting that those opposed to Candace Owens are propagandists and lying demons. So you’re a Candace Owens subscriber?

Yes, I think knight was suggesting than those opposing Owens are propagandists and lying demons.

I watch Candace sometimes, but don't subscribe to her channel.


by Luciom

ok so now it's not only the NY post and fox (which i fully understand why leftists wouldn't trust) reporting it, it's axios (a reputable centrist platform) doing it as well

https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-su...

Kirk suspect's transgender roommate "aghast," may be key to motive

It’s really weird because he has two public TikTok accounts (still live) and an Instagram account, and I just watched all of his videos. Totally average white dude doing skateboarding and beer pong.

https://www.tiktok.com/@lanclotl?_t=ZP-8...

https://www.tiktok.com/@c00kies_n_cream?...


by natediggity

I can read and understand the words. Until today had never heard of a groyper (one of which apparently killed Kirk). No clue who Fuentes is (I assume that's a person).

People need to get off social media. It is absolute poison.

Well man , the killer wasn't actually a groyper, but they exist whether you dwell online or not. It's people who believe every anti jews conspiracy you ever heard of, and are christian white supremacist basically.

We can't put the antisemitism inside the bottle. It's all around us. The left spread it a lot more, but some people on the right do spread it as well.


by Crossnerd

It’s really weird because he has a public TikTok and Instagram account (still live) and I just watched all of his videos. Totally average white dude doing skateboarding and beer pong.

https://www.tiktok.com/@lanclotl?_t=ZP-8...

ok axios says they interviewed 6 people who confirmed he was banging the transitioning boy (in the last few months). Might be false, if you want we can wait for more confirmation/denial from other sources.


by geezerchess

Not sure the motive is as clear as you think it is.

he liked a person a lot who he thought Kirk considered a demon that deserved to die, so he killed Kirk. That's the 101 motive explanation we can give with the available information


by Luciom

Well man , the killer wasn't actually a groyper, but they exist whether you dwell online or not. It's people who believe every anti jews conspiracy you ever heard of, and are christian white supremacist basically.

We can't put the antisemitism inside the bottle. It's all around us. The left spread it a lot more, but some people on the right do spread it as well.

I assume you realize that a large majority of Jewish-Americans vote Democrat. On the face it that fact at the very least seems inconsistent with your claim.


by Luciom

ok axios says they interviewed 6 people who confirmed he was banging the transitioning boy (in the last few months). Might be false, if you want we can wait for more confirmation/denial from other sources.

Remind me why I should give a **** who he was allegedly dating? He might have been playing hide the salami with Italian girls, who gives a flying ****.


by Luciom

he liked a person a lot who he thought Kirk considered a demon that deserved to die, so he killed Kirk. That's the 101 motive explanation we can give with the available information

Certainly that could be the motive. But there are others.


by Trolly McTrollson

Remind me why I should give a **** who he was allegedly dating? He might have been playing hide the salami with Italian girls, who gives a flying ****.

THIS!!!

(Yes, I'm emphatically agreeing with Trolly on something.)


Lol, I think it’s possible that the older generations are just out to sea when it comes to things like the gen z gamer community and its eccentricities. Cis-males can very much be into anime and onesies. That doesn’t make them trans…


by geezerchess

I assume you realize that a large majority of Jewish-Americans vote Democrat. On the face it that fact at the very least seems inconsistent with your claim.

It isn't inconsistent, because the real antisemites on the left are people like victor who think democrats are the same as republicans.

Also recently the democratic party is trying to incorporate those monsters which is why they demoted many jewish people or kicked them out of the party outright. Analysts, campaign managers and the like. There has been a purge of jews very similar to nazis in the democratic party recently. David Shor was one of the victims of that for example (friend of mine)


by Crossnerd

Lol, I think it’s possible that the older generations are just out to sea when it comes to things like the gen z gamer community and its eccentricities. Cis-males can very much be into anime and onesies. That doesn’t make them trans…

There is no claim the assassin was trans. The claim is he had a partner who was


by Crossnerd

It’s really weird because he has two public TikTok accounts (still live) and an Instagram account, and I just watched all of his videos. Totally average white dude doing skateboarding and beer pong.

https://www.tiktok.com/@lanclotl?_t=ZP-8...

https://www.tiktok.com/@c00kies_n_cream?...

i don't think you watched all of them


by Luciom

ok axios says they interviewed 6 people who confirmed he was banging the transitioning boy (in the last few months). Might be false, if you want we can wait for more confirmation/denial from other sources.

I’d like to hear it from an official source in the investigation, not just “sources close to” it. There is a difference.


by Trolly McTrollson

Remind me why I should give a **** who he was allegedly dating? He might have been playing hide the salami with Italian girls, who gives a flying ****.

So let's say you date an indian and then kill the most famous anti -indian person in the nation. WOULD THAT MAYBE GIVE US THE MOTIVE FOR YOUR ASSASSINATION?


by Luciom

It isn't inconsistent, because the real antisemites on the left are people like victor who think democrats are the same as republicans.Also recently the democratic party is trying to incorporate those monsters which is why they demoted many jewish people or kicked them out of the party outright. Analysts, campaign managers and the like. There has been a purge of jews very simil

Is it at least possible that the 'analysts and campaign managers and the like' were "kicked out" because they totally botched the 2024 elections?


by Crossnerd

I’d like to hear it from an official source in the investigation, not just “sources close to” it. There is a difference.

sure i understand the skepticism. Still, it's on axios now, so they must have vetted the sources.

Anyway, we can wait for confirmation


by Luciom

he liked a person a lot who he thought Kirk considered a demon that deserved to die, so he killed Kirk. That's the 101 motive explanation we can give with the available information

You realize this motive is weaker and less likely than the other possibilities, right?

It’s quite common for people to kill the people they love out of passion. It’s rare that anyone calculates a murder of someone else out of passion for the people they love purely for ideological purposes, not to prevent actual personal harm. Can you name a few?

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