Live PLO, Playing AAxx OOP
SETUP
The game is live full-ring $5/10 PLO.
Villain is a reg and, I think, a winner.
I'm still learning the basics of PLO and I think he knows it.
Stacks are about $2300.
There is a dead $20 UTG.
PRE-FLOP
Limps to Villain who raises to $90.
Folds to Hero in BB, raises to $310 with A♠ A♦ 7♣ 4♠.
Question 1: Should I bloating the pot sitting this deep OOP? If not, how does SPR impact your thinking?
Villain insta-calls.
FLOP ($660) 8♠ 7♥ 3♠
Hero?
Question 2: Basically the same as Question 1: How should SPR impact my thinking?
9 Replies
Things to be thinking about
how tight is villains open range? V seat?
What's our 3b range?
The thing with live is, I personally often rep AA when I 3b. If you have tight image and tight 3b range, your hand might look faced up.
Flop seems like a range check board texture?
I don't think we cbetting this type of board unless it's super low spr.
I think most V will stab at high frequencies when checked we just stick it in then?
Not end of the day if it goes check check.
I wouldn’t have raised oop with a semi-dangler hu v a pro who knows you’re a noob.
AP, pot it again. Your hand is already face up. You’re way ahead atm but vulnerable to at least half the deck. A free card like the K-9h is catastrophic. On your good days he has QQJTsshh, he puts you on the lone AS, the turn snags him, the river bricks, and you double through him.
You’re not going to trap him or deceive him or outplay him outthink him outsolve him or outequity him. You’ve got the best hand right now with 10 stone nut redraws so get it in there and then announce pot in the dark if he calls.
Things to be thinking abouthow tight is villains open range? V seat?What's our 3b range?The thing with live is, I personally often rep AA when I 3b. If you have tight image and tight 3b range, your hand might look faced up.Flop seems like a range check board texture?I don't think we cbetting this type of board unless it's super low spr.I think most V will stab at high frequenc
That's a lot of questions to think about! No newb can tackle that many questions all at once. Which one should I prioritize/
That's a lot of questions to think about! No newb can tackle that many questions all at once. Which one should I prioritize/
Not too much.
Which position he opens can tell you a bit about his preflop range.
If he doesn't open much, often limp/calling or fold it also tells you he opens very tight ranges.
Even a newbie can notice this type of info.
Then your 3bet range, I was kinda asking how often you were 3betting in game. If you didn't 3bet much or didn't 3bet at all, then your hand might look faced up. When my hand looks faced up, I only 3bet super strong Aces or 3bet ds rundowns type hands. Then if i can mix more hands into my 3bet range then AA74ss becomes more natural to 3bet. I might just flat this deep.
Flop board textures seems to be very bad our range. Occasionally, our range have hands like JT9x 789x but most of the time we miss.
Also when we cbet with our 3bet range on this flop, we pretty much hate every turn besides an A.
With our specific hand we don't mind a cbet, but we have to balance the times we miss?
This are just my random thoughts, I'm still a newbie myself.
Once the dead 20 happens, you're just not that deep. Whether you count your stack in "blinds" of 20 (we are 115 bb eff) or math out the spr in "what happens if I pot it?" (oop 3bettor, spr ~3.5), you're in familiar waters.
At twice the stack depth id consider just calling some AA but this doesn't seem close to a bottom combo. Not terribly sure about drawing the lines.
I would slot this hand in one of two buckets: bet big mostly for denying equity but happy to gii; or bet small because we have top of range and welcome more continues but also cover for our m you're theost hopeless hands also betting small for bluff.
I'm leaning toward the bigger size. We can imagine better top of range combos that's doing very well encouraging continues. We have middle pair blocking set/2pair continues which I think benefits denying equity.
Bloating the pot with AA oop is always tricky, the board definetily favours your hand so at this spr I'd probably check raise the flop and even get it all in in face of aggression. If flop goes check, check I'll re-evaluate and bet half the turn cards.